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  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Warrington PA
Posted by oceano75 on Saturday, July 21, 2012 8:41 AM

Thank you all for your suggestions.

I checked out the Velinden and Flagship Monitors again.  Looks like they both have pyramid conning towers.  I have experience in modifying resin - probably could make the needed changes.

Will definitely look for the Morgan.  Lived in CT for 6 years and got to know her at Mystic Seaport.

Thanks for the tips on Bama/Beagle.

I actually have the Jolly Roger in my stash - looking to do the Surprise fit unless I can find an American equivalent.  Looking at the Airfix Endeavor and Discovery kits (unfortunately both on ebay).  Am also looking at Revell.  Their Frigate United States is interesting but for some reason Wasa never interested me.

No word on the Golden Hind crest?

Thanks again,

If I ever get anything actually built, I'll post some pics.

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Friday, July 20, 2012 10:58 AM

Also, the Revell 1/96 CSS Alabama does not represent that ship at all. The USS Kearsarge represents the ship at the end of her life, not as she appered during the battle with the Alabama. Stay away from the Revell HMS Beagle; it is simply a reboxed Bounty.

As far as non-American warships, check out the rest of the so-called "pirate" series by Lindberg. The Jolly Roger can build into a very nice French frigate; there is a conversion article here converting the kit to HMS Surprise. Another actually represents the Wappen von Hamburg, while the last is the Saint Louis.  Heller has some good kits but be careful with Heller sailing ships; there are a lot of fictitious ones as well.  The Airfix ine is also quite good but dated. Finally, Revell has been doing some good thisgs with sailing ships recently and has recently released a very nice and updated Wasa.

Good luck!

  • Member since
    March 2007
  • From: Carmel, CA
Posted by bondoman on Thursday, July 19, 2012 9:52 PM

The Hancock sometimes mentioned is a scratch built model by John Tilley.

Wow you've built a lot.

A great model of an American is the Revell C.W. Morgan.

I would also look at the Lindberg Jolly Roger ne La Flore.

  • Member since
    August 2005
  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, July 19, 2012 8:16 PM

2)  The Verlinden Monitor is waterline and would be suitable for a diorama.  However the hull is cast with the pyramid-shaped conning station and raised vents & stacks which are appropriate for the Summer of 1862  on the James River.   Not appropriate for the Battle of Hampton Roads of March '62

  • Member since
    March 2003
  • From: Warrington PA
Returning with questions
Posted by oceano75 on Thursday, July 19, 2012 7:32 PM

Greetings All,

After many years of building armor and aircraft, I have decided to return to my roots and get back into ship building. In my earlier years I have the Revell Eagle (twice), Bounty (twice), Constitution (the 1/96th one), Lindberg Harriet Lane, Sandpiper, Aurora Bluenose, Viking Ship (complete with horned figures!), Heller Viking Ships, and several WWII-era USN/USCG ships to my credit.  I have been following the forum for about a year getting a lot of good information and ideas.  I have 3 specific questions about 3 projects I am thinking of doing.

1. I would first like to build the Golden Hind as Drake sailed her.  I am looking at the Revell/Heller 1/96 or the Airfix 1/72.  Both seem like fairly accurate replicas that are fairly easy to build.  My question results from a comment by a gentleman on another forum.  He stated that the Airfix 1/72 had an anachronistic feature of Drake's coat of arms on the stern which was not there during the circumnavigation.  I have Googled both models and have seen both built.  It looks to me like the Revell kit has the Drake crest and the Airfix kit has the Golden Hind crest.  Am I missing something or has the gentleman got his manufacturers mixed up?  I understand that the ship was originally named Pelican and was renamed Golden Hind half way through the voyage, so the Golden Hind crest may not be completely accurate either, but that is the kit I would rather build.

2. I am seriously interested in doing a Monitor/Virginia diorama.  From what I have read, the Pyro/Life Like/Lindberg kit is a non-starter, if only because the boats are in different scales, making a diorama unrealistic.  That leaves Verlinden 1/200 waterline or Flagship 1/192 full hull.  Flagship seems a little pricey.  Are they worth it, or are the Verlinden kits satisfactory for a diorama setting (ie – no full hull needed)?

3. The Lindberg Blackbeard Pirate Ship (nee Royal Sovereign/Sovereign/Sovereign of the Seas) has caught my attention.  But the scale is variously given as 1/250 (which would make the model 6" long) and 1/130 (which would make the model 12" long).  I read the description of the kit on an on-line site and it is said to be 15" long.  I assume 1/130 is correct and 1/250 is an error along the lines of the Heller "1/200 Golden Hind" which is a rebox of the Revell  1/96 kit?

On a different note, there are lots of British/French/German/Pirate/Norse ships out there.  Are there ANY good plastic models of American Age of Sail warships other than the Connie, Kearsarge/Alabama, Taney, and Susquehanna?  I have seen a USS Hancock mentioned but can find NO clues to her existence anywhere.  I am not considering the Revell Bonnie *** a GOOD model.

Thanks for any guidance you can offer and keep up the excellent work.

And oh by the way…

If anyone is interested in modeling US Coast Guard subjects, please check out my website at coastguardmodeling.com. 

And if you note any omissions or errors, PLEASE let me know so I can correct them 

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