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Posted by f8sader on Sunday, October 14, 2012 10:16 AM

subfixer

I helped denuke the Triton; big, ugly thing!

The Triton (at least by sail #) was/is at PSNS here in WA.  What an ungainly monster.  Been a while since I've had the opportunity to see it, I heard she may have met the torch.  Sorry to off track the thread!

Back on subject, someone might get a shot at a 1:1 scale model of the USCGC Polar Sea if the gov't. decides to scrap it.  Just imagine that on the shelf in your den!

Lon-ski

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Posted by subfixer on Thursday, October 11, 2012 8:26 AM

GMorrison

On account of that big Dreadnought bow designed for surface running?

Simon Bolivar on the other hand was a beautiful boat, as were the other Franklins including my favorite SSBN the Mariano G. Vallejo.

 

Not so much the bow and the twin screw configuration so much as the humongous sail/conning tower that housed the gigantic radar antenna. What a monster!

I did work on the "Valley-Joe" back in the day in Kings Bay, Georgia. She was a solid boat.

The Skipjack, Nautilus, Triton, and Fulton at State Pier in New London, Connecticut:

File:USS Fulton AS-11 with SSNs New London 1962.jpg

The Triton:

File:SSRN586 cutaway 1959.JPG

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, October 11, 2012 12:56 AM

On account of that big Dreadnought bow designed for surface running?

Simon Bolivar on the other hand was a beautiful boat, as were the other Franklins including my favorite SSBN the Mariano G. Vallejo.

Our friend's and my family spent summer vacations together in Newport News, Honolulu and Mare Island CA.

I just purchased a nice resin kit of the Nautilus. Made by Blue Ridge and looks to have all of the bells and whistles.

Thank you for the tip, Subfixer.

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:19 PM

I helped denuke the Triton; big, ugly thing!

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 3:05 PM

subfixer

Don't forget USS Nautilus and USS Skate.

Never forgotten, sir.

A very good friend of my family served on SSN-571 in the '60s, later XO on the USS Triton and USS John C. Calhoun and Captain of the USS Simon Bolivar

Went on Eternal Patrol in 2008.

I will definitely try to find that model. I have not built a submarine model in a very long time.

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Posted by subfixer on Wednesday, October 10, 2012 9:08 AM

Don't forget USS Nautilus and USS Skate.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by thunder1 on Tuesday, October 9, 2012 10:02 PM

Well I dug into the shipyard stash of kits and came up with these polar ships...

Paramount  Industries offered the Japanese Icebreaker "FUJI", 1:300 scale

Nichimo  offered the Japanese Ice Breaker "SHIRASE" in 1:450 scale

I also have a 1:400 scale Soviet Ice Breaker but as the box and directions are all printed in Russian I'm not sure who the manufacturer is(I'm not sure of the ships name either). I think this is a remake of a Frog kit from the 1960's.

I have a wooden model of the most famous "ice ship" of all time the 1870's ship "BEAR". It's a kit from the 1930's and no scale is given.  Built in Scotland  as a sealer in 1874, the US government purchased the ship to rescue the 1883 Greeley expedition. The ship accompanied Admiral Byrd on two antarctica expeditions, 1933 and 1939. The BEAR served as the only representative of  Federal law and order along the Alaska coast. For 42 years the BEAR patrolled the Bering Sea and Arctic ocean serving as a  rescue ship for stranded whalers, a Coast Guard cutter, and a museum ship in Oakland California. Called back to duty  in WWII it was a patrol vessel in northern Greenland waters. It almost  ended it's days as a resturant but sunk under tow to it's new port.  I'm surprised no one offered a plastic model of this ship in the 1950's, as all types of ship models found their way to store shelves. The Bear appeared in the movie "The Sea Wolf" and during it's long career wore many guises, paint schemes and armament. It even carried a Grumman "Duck" seaplane in WWII.  It would make an interesting plastic sailing ship....

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Posted by kenjitak on Monday, October 8, 2012 6:31 PM

Hasegawa has several versions of the Soya.

Ken

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 8, 2012 3:46 PM

I did not know about the Airfix Discovery, or if I did I had forgotten about it. I'll be sure to try to find an example.

I am really surprised that there isn't an Endurance out there.

I would also really like Fram.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 8, 2012 8:40 AM

I think the plastic model companies are very reluctant to put out any kit that is not a naval vessel.  They view, correctly, scale modelers as primarily military modelers.

Some of those exploration kits were naval, some even carried multiple guns.  But by and large, even if they were naval, they were transports.  Only recently have I seen very many transport ships become available, so maybe more of those vessels will become available.

Also, industry is more reluctant to put out sailing vessels.  Many of my modeling buddies think I am nuts to build sailing vessel models.  Too much work for most of them.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, October 8, 2012 6:31 AM

Loose Cannon makes the Canadian icebreaker Pierre Raddison in 1:700 scale resin & brass

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Posted by cerberusjf on Monday, October 8, 2012 6:31 AM

As Felix C says, Airfix did RRS Discovery in 1/144, nice kit.  "Pourquoi-pas" was also available as a wood kit from Billings and Constructo.

I guess there's just not enough interest for manufacturers to produce kits.   Maybe it is also difficult to get plans and documantation?  For example, I tried to get a set of plans of the "Belgica" from a society that were building a replica and of the ship "Hecla" from the yard that built her and the yard that did reconstruction work on her, but I got no response from any of them.

Funnily enough, I think Heller could have rekitted the Pourquoi pas as some of the other ships with some modefications with better results than many of their other reboxings.

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Posted by Felix C. on Monday, October 8, 2012 5:54 AM

Airfix made an Discovery in 1/144

Heller made the Polar Star in 1/150 sames as Porquoi Pais

Gjoa was available as a wood kit

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Arctic/ Antarctic exploration vessels
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 8, 2012 2:18 AM

Chalk it off to a midlife crisis....

I have become seriously fascinated with the exploration of the poles, both as literary and as modeling subjects.

I suppose in modeling it began with a gift of the Gjoa, the solid hull little Model Shipways kit that represents Amundsen's worthy smack which transited the Northwest Passage. Built in my early teens, it sits in a position of notice in my elderly father's study.

The real Gjoa sat in derelict state for many years out at Land's End here in the Bay Area, Dad and I visited her once.

During University in Copenhagen I revisited her in Oslo, and of course also visited the Gokstad and Oseberg ships,

The Fram. Here lies my first question. Probably as famous and as accomplished a ship as ever was a factor in polar exploration. Kind of a up-and-down Endevour.

Why isn't there a model kit available? In plastic, but otherwise even in wood?

Or the Endurance?

Or the Terra Nova?

Or the Aurora, the Nimrod, the Discovery?

These are all pretty decent looking, sail/ powered for the most part.

I have found a Pourquoi Pas?

Much more recently I put some effort into the re release of the Revell USS Pine Island, A nice little dio with the Mariner aircraft being retrieved during Operation Long Bow.

In a more modern vein, Squadron has the Burton Island on sale cheap. I picked one up. I also have the Hasegawa Soya Corps One in the stash.

Helicopters- my newest fascination although Dad who's a retires Aero Engineer told me never to get in one because they only pretend to fly. Early bright orange Sikorskys- two of them.

So the puzzle and please let me know what you know...where are all the ships?

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