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The importance of research before you buy; another HECEPOB horror story

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  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, October 22, 2012 6:38 PM

That is why research is so necessary. There are many POB ship kits that are legitimate. There are also many that are not.  I'm just glad that I caught this one before purchase!

Bill

  • Member since
    June 2012
  • From: Kidderminster, U.K.
Posted by Jockster on Monday, October 22, 2012 5:35 PM

Uh oh! No wait! I am sure my POB of HMS VICTORY is of an akshul ship, I've been on her! Or have I?!

On the bench-1/350 Zvezda Varyag, Trumpeter Slava class Varyag and Tamiya CVN65 Enterprise. 1/400 Academy Titanic and 1/96 DeAgostini Victory.

 

 

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, October 22, 2012 2:49 PM

I've dug a little deeper, and there hs never been a British 58-gun warship named HMS Neptune. I'm glad that I have gotten sceptical over the years!

Bill Morrison

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 22, 2012 2:43 PM

There's a nice WIP post over on Model Ship World. The builder happily churns along for 18 pages without reference to a real prototype, rather he uses standard references of ships of the time. Near the end he mentions that the subject is "imaginary", which of course it is.

In their defense, what little of the Corel box top I can see in the post calls it a "Vascello da 58 cannoni", which is entirely correct, a vascello being an eighteenth century Galleon type of heavy warship ( I think).

I think these online resellers tend to just repeat whatever garbage they hear. If you wanted to build an eighteenth century British vascello da cannoni, of an imaginery subject, it's a pretty thing.

Leave the Carronade, take the cannoni...

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Groton, CT
The importance of research before you buy; another HECEPOB horror story
Posted by warshipguy on Monday, October 22, 2012 2:09 PM

I have to admit, I like building plank-on-bulkhead sailing ship models. But, as the old adage goes, "Let the buyer beware!"

I never buy a kit without first researching the real ship, even using secondary and tertiary sources.  Lately, I have been looking at the Corel kit of the HMS Neptune; the model looks attractive and there are no other kits of 17th century 50-60 gun ships.  However, I was disturbed by the kit description of her as being a "50-gun heavy frigate", a term that came into use over a hundred years later. Corel describes this model as representative of the HMS Neptune that ". . . took part in the Battle of La Hogue on 2 June 1692."

Looking at my trusty "Ships of the Line, vol. 1," by Lavery, I found that the HMS Neptune that took part at La Hogue was, in fact, a 90 gun second-rate. She underwent two rebui renamed HMS Torbaylds, the first between 1724 and 1730 as a 90-gun second rate, and the second between 1747 and 1749 as a 74-gun third rate.  She finished her life as the 74-gun HMS Torbay in 1784.

In other words, there never was a 50-gun HMS Neptune, as the kit pretends to be! Again, it pays to do your research; let the buyer beware!

Bill

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