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1/96 Revell CS converted into the Ferreira

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, March 10, 2014 6:17 PM

Indeed and I need escaping........

Rob

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Posted by freem on Monday, March 10, 2014 11:49 AM

Sorry about your mother in law and best of luck with the new job!  Sucks when life gets in the way but it's nice to have a place to escape.

Chris Christenson

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, March 8, 2014 3:18 PM

I thought is was a fascinating read....brings more *Connect* to my builds.

Rob

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, March 8, 2014 3:17 PM

I took a new job...and I have been a bit distracted by it...plus my mother-n-law just passed so I have been clearing her estate and home.

Thanks for asking.

Rob

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Posted by Jim Barton on Wednesday, March 5, 2014 3:41 PM

rwiederrich

Man......I was reading Samual Samuels book, *From Forcastle to Cabin*...he was the captain of the clipper Dreadnought. His depictions of working the rigging during extreme Horn weather is telling.

Working the yards at elevation is like being on a sling shot.

Rob

That's Dramamine time!Whistling

"Whaddya mean 'Who's flying the plane?!' Nobody's flying the plane!"

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Posted by freem on Tuesday, March 4, 2014 8:34 AM

Fantastic as always, Rob!   Where ya been?

Chris Christenson

 

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Posted by rwiederrich on Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:05 PM

Some bow water edge detail.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, November 29, 2013 11:00 AM

Man......I was reading Samual Samuels book, *From Forcastle to Cabin*...he was the captain of the clipper Dreadnought. His depictions of working the rigging during extreme Horn weather is telling.

Working the yards at elevation is like being on a sling shot.

Rob

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Thursday, November 28, 2013 8:36 AM

GMorrison

 

 

 

I've capsized everything up to about 25 feet.

It's not a lot of fun, as sailboats go all unorganized under water.

When I was a kid in Florida, we would intentionally capsize just to cool off.

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:38 AM

I saw the Emirates Team cat get up on her downwind hull while on a 20 knot upwind tack, from about a mile away. Pretty much had a plan view of the whole layout. The only thing that saved her was that Oracle was passing directly upwind on an opposite tack.

They asked Dean Barker later how far over she keeled.

"44 degrees"

"When do you capsize?"

" 45 degrees".

I've capsized everything up to about 25 feet.

It's not a lot of fun, as sailboats go all unorganized under water.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, November 28, 2013 1:29 AM

Not just heavy seas.

Want to see how little means a lot?

Take a bit of scrap paper, draw a vertical line, oh 5" long thereupon.  Now, draw a horizontal line 5" long centered on the top of the vertical line, giving a T.

Find a suitable substrate and stick a pin at the base of the T.

Now rotate the T just 5º either way.  Tick off on the substrate where either the low or high end of the crossbar on the T gets to. Now, rotate 5º the other way.  Note how big that difference is.  

If we just arbitrarily call that a scale of 1" = 10'-0", for a 50' long yard 50' up, you can now scale how high the vertical motion at the horse would be with a 10º roll.

Ok, this is not to proper scale.  Ships roll around their Center of Buoyancy in all three axes.  So, that T probably ought be pinned about 6.5" down.  Except we then need to subtract for the moment arm coming from the CG(t) (thrust Center of gravity), so, scootch up an 1/8.  Also, to average the pitch out, we probably need to come up another 3/8" - 1/2" too.  While we are at it, square -rigged ships only roll about 6-7º, but, that's skewed into a heel of 3-6º

The above is why such examples use simple 5" diagrams (which can be executed on folded bits of 8.5x11 paper).   Fur a test of land-based vertigo, get a 8.5x11 copy of an elevation of a clipper mast , and pivot that through 5-6º--pay attention to those t'gallants & royals).

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, November 25, 2013 7:27 AM

Yeah and try being out there when in heavy seas.............Oooooooo

Rob

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 24, 2013 11:53 PM

Yeah, saw your post only after replying.

Did trigger a memory of sending lubbers and greenhorns "to the horse" to test their mettle.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Sunday, November 24, 2013 8:27 PM

Capnmac gave an exhaustive explanation.....mine was a bit amended...but said the same thing.

Thanks Capn....and you're welcome.

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Posted by arnie60 on Sunday, November 24, 2013 2:30 PM

Thanks for the clarification Rob. I love picking up little tid bits like this.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 24, 2013 1:37 AM

A yard on a square-rigged ship has a complicated geometry  The shapes and attachments changed through history.  

One of the important parts of the yard that evolved through time is the extreme ends, where a shoulder was made to carry clew, tack ,and brace blocks.  Also, the lifts or downhauls were fetched up there.  This narrowed end is called the the arm of the yard.  By the time of the jackstay, some of the blocks were replaced with sheaves through the yard, but, a tackle--rigged flying--was hitched to the first reef band, and the yardarm.

So, the yard arms begin about where the head of the sail ends.  So, the footropes could terminate in an eye passed over the yardarm.  Except that the angle of the footrope was not always convenient at that very end.   So, to work at the extreme end of the yard, the Flemish Horse was introduced.

The horse fastened through, or from the end of the yard arm, then passed back to about the lashing of the nearest footrope support.

Since there was typically only need, and room, for one man out there, that lone footrope was said to buck and sway like a Flemish Horse, and thus the name.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, November 23, 2013 5:15 PM

That rope that extends to the yards end and forms a small foot rope..that's it. Foot  ropes do not extend to the end of the yard on some yards...to make way for the sheets to pass through the yard.

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Posted by arnie60 on Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:41 PM

okay Rob...what the heck are flemish horses? I suspect they are not equines from Holland.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:23 PM

And a wider view from the sea level.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:22 PM

A bit closer.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, November 23, 2013 4:21 PM

Did some work on the foremast yards today.......flemish horses, foot ropes and some blocks..then some weathering

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, November 22, 2013 8:02 PM

Thanks David...I appreciate that.  I rigged all the jackstays atop of the yards for the foremast....tomorrow I will rig all the yards with their flemish horses, stirrups and foot ropes...along with all needed blocks..then go back and finish the top shrouds for the foremast.  Lots to still do...but the end is in sight.

Yes David...paper sails are easy and once prepared..can look very convincing and not like thick out of scale cloth sails.

Rob

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  • From: Marysville, WA
Posted by David_K on Friday, November 22, 2013 6:27 PM

Looks good, as always, Rob!  Your work amazes...and seeing it in person really brought home the fineness of detail you impart!

I like the idea of paper for the sails....may have to try that sometime!

Dave

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, November 22, 2013 2:27 PM

No..thank you Arnie for your kind words.  I hope my other models..Ferreira, Glory of the Seas and the Donald McKay are just as or more so..detailed.   I love to *Hyper* detail as best as I can.

Rob

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Posted by arnie60 on Friday, November 22, 2013 11:50 AM

The detailing is phenomenal Rob. Thanks for the posts.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:21 PM

Lastly.

Thanks for looking.

Rob

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:20 PM

Another

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, November 21, 2013 3:19 PM

Here..let me post a few more for your convenience.

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Posted by arnie60 on Thursday, November 21, 2013 11:28 AM

Ah! Really awesome Rob. Thanks for the pic. The thread did not have it. I am copying it and saving to my computer. Maybe some day I will get to your level of craftmanship.

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