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U.S.S. Intrepid CV-11
Posted by pittsfieldpete on Friday, June 7, 2013 1:31 PM

Hello:

I just purchased Trumpeter's nice 1/350 U.S.S. Essex class, which I understand is similar to the U.S.S. Intrepid. Can anyone provide sources for decals for the Intrepid? I've also got a nice PE detail set to do it up right, but I want to model the Intrepid. I don't care if it's 100% accurate, just a close resemblance (purists...please don't tar & feather me!).

 

Any decal sources & advice would be appreciated.

Thanks,

Pete

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Posted by ddp59 on Friday, June 7, 2013 9:42 PM

the  Intrepid is part of the essex class. you bought this 1  U.S. Aircraft Carrier CV-9 Essex 1943 Item No  05602

www.steelnavy.com/essex_data.htm USS Ticonderoga

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Posted by Tracy White on Friday, June 7, 2013 11:24 PM

? DDP, what is your post supposed to do?

Pete, contact Gold Medal Models.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, June 8, 2013 10:43 PM

Dunno, TW, I'm guessing that there was some content loss after translation.

However, if you follow the link to the CV-11 data, there's some useful info.

Not per se useful-to-modeler i nthe vein of "flightdeck needs to be xx mm [longer/shorter/wider]" type of thing.  But, it does have the make-up of the air wing by date--which is very handy.  And, as with almost all carriers, picking a date is the step after you select which carrier to build.

Hopefully, DDP will return, and we can inquire.

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Posted by Tracy White on Sunday, June 9, 2013 12:57 PM

Yeah, but all Pete wants to do is add decals.. air wing and details aren't a concern - he said that up front.

Also, for what it's worth, that page was a great effort, but it has a lot of errors and attempts to get them changed have been met with silence. Caveat emptor!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, June 9, 2013 6:39 PM

No!  It's on the INTERWEBZ!  it can't be WRONG! <G>

(I have to admit to a certain learned "twitch" regarding birdfarms and their brownshoe machinations, and have a reflex to keep them at distances & CPA similar to VLCC & ULCC--anything much smaller than half a beam-width all about the same at the ranges I prefer.  (And yes, that COD trip by C-3A was also far too close for this ol' gator).

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Posted by seasick on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:12 PM

There were two slightly different hull designs in the Essex class aircraft carrier. There was a "Short Hull" and a "Long Hull". The Long hull version was modified to fit more anti-aircraft weapons near the bow.

USS Intrepid CV-11 was a "Short hull" Essex class.

Design names corrected to correct terminology. To avoid confusion. (I shouldn't edit late at night). Its all Good. Beer

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Posted by seasick on Wednesday, July 24, 2013 11:13 PM

If you want to look at pictures of the CV-11, go to www.navsource.org

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Posted by Tracy White on Thursday, July 25, 2013 1:10 AM

:: pained look ::

Here's the actual Navsource Intrepid page. I don't want to be to pedantic and "accuracy police," but in the interest of speaking precisely, the term was long hull and not long bow. This was a wartime change and did not make the hull any longer at the water line, but extended the bow and stern out so that they could be widened to fit two quad mounts at each end instead of one. Seasick is correct in that you don't actually need to pay attention to this for Intrepid.

Again, not trying to be the accuracy police, but as "Mr Essex" on the web, I don't want to have to correct "long bow" for years.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:50 AM

PETE :

    I will say this only once .You build this ship the way you want .I do a lot of bulds of tankers , hence the moniker .Why ? well there's not to many judges in I.P.M.S. shows that know much about VLCC and ULCC tankers , much less container ships and the old fashioned " stick " ships . Stick ships are the old style frieghters and tankers . A carrier is a fascinating build ,if it's 100 % accurate or not

   .TRACY always says it better, darn it  . But there you have my thinking on the subject . I built the INDEPENDENCE and afterwards found out the stack supports were wrong . Did I go back and change them ? NO . Why ? Well most folks around here wouldn't notice the difference anyway  and I had fun building it !  In your case , the thought from someone might be , "OH , I've been at that museum ." There the commonality ends . Got that ? You enjoy your Bird-Farm and I wish you a good build .    MODEL ON ! !       Tanker-Builder

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, July 25, 2013 8:03 PM

Well it's all a point of view. I personally think accuracy is to be encouraged. I often think about how when I was a little kid and we ran around shooting at Germans, those hostilities were only 10 years past. As we write, Desert Storm was as long ago. Who's to remember what was accurate 70 years ago if we don't attempt to memorialize it.

As I said, I don't consider it a requirement, but it should be encouraged.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by LonCray on Friday, July 26, 2013 8:47 AM

If we're being accurate, Desert Storm was 22 years ago.  Operation Iraqi Freedom was (about) 10 years past.  

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Posted by jtilley on Friday, July 26, 2013 10:05 AM

I'm a college teacher, and it frightens me to realize that most of our undergraduates were born after Desert Storm.  My wife is a high school teacher; most of her students are ninth graders.  Most of her students can't remember 9/11.  In a couple of years she'll start getting students who hadn't been born in 2001.

The Vietnam conflict is considerably more ancient to today's college students than WWII was to me when I was in college.

I feel old....

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Tracy White on Friday, July 26, 2013 10:08 AM

My wife is a high school teacher as well and was not nearly as amused as I when I realized my Costco membership card that hangs out in my wallet was older than her students Toast

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, July 27, 2013 2:33 AM

Even only just being past a half-century, I've run into this situation a few times.

Part of which comes from an after-the-fact familial observation.  If I talk about my grandfather, on of the things that will crop up is that he was a MoMM/1 on an AK at Anzio.  One of his stories was of how they rotated the snipes on deck after long stretches of GQ stations.  While on deck, the gun line was supporting the landings.  The 14" shells he saw were from USS Texas.  

This is often where I "lose" listeners whose grandparents' service was in VN; that I had a grandparent in WWII boggles them.  That I attended a family thanksgiving where the "adults' table" where, of the 16 present, only three had no military service (the 2 WAC, the Wave, & the Wasp skewing the demographic a bit).

Every so often, I, too, fall prey to this--when I consider my family tree contemporary to my Great-grandfather, who was called up for service at a naval base for the Spanish-American war.  Which is more than a century ago.  To add to that, my paternal GGF's younger sister had 13 children spanning 26 years.  Her youngest child is scarcely older than my own father--which can boggle.

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Posted by subfixer on Saturday, July 27, 2013 8:53 AM

My grandfather on my dad's side was pretty well rounded in his war experiences. From fighting Pancho Villa in the US Cavalry, to being a doughboy in WWI, and an officer in the Pacific with MacArthur. He died when I was ten so I never really got to ask him anything that I would give my right arm to hear.

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