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Korean War era Life Rings, USN

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Korean War era Life Rings, USN
Posted by dhenning on Saturday, June 15, 2013 9:46 PM

I have seen discussions and photos of WWII era life rings being painted in the same color as the ships camo at the given location (a lot of criticism of life rings on PT boat models painted orange instead of the background color).   I have seen photos of this on WWII destroyers and such, but my current project is the USS Pirate (AM-275) , an Admirable class minesweeper,  during service and subsequent loss in the early days of the war in Korea.   Does anyone have an idea of when USN life rings either went back to pre-war white color or the later orange color?   I have found black and white photos of a sister ship returning to Pearl Harbor after service in Korea and the life rings are definitely not the same haze gray as the rest of the superstructure.  They stand out even in shadows, but is this white or orange? 

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, June 15, 2013 10:41 PM

Here is a photo taken during the Wonson minesweeping operations in 1950 at the same time & place that USS Pirate was sunk. If you look in the lower right corner there is a life ring there. I would say that the ring appears to be in Haze Gray as it matches the surrounding area pretty closely.

 

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Posted by TomZ2 on Saturday, June 15, 2013 11:41 PM

This image (above the life raft) looks like a dark life ring. Orange ???


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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:01 AM

Hmm, think that is Measure 22? Or an early Measure 12?

Whether that's 5-NB or 5-N, then that life ring is lighter than #6 gray; perhaps red?  Hard to say.

Notice how light the big paravane is amidships; yet about the same tone as the topsides of the 26' MWB, and both lighter than 5-H topsides.  So, that paravane might be white.  The after paravanes could be a matt yellow

Taking my magnifying glass to the image, the red stripes are not much help, and the the depth charges are typically flat black.  I'll guess that there is a possibility that the lifering is a denim or dark chambray collor similar to the fabric used on kapok life jackets.  The blue-grey would contrast against the haze gray some.

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Posted by dhenning on Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:37 AM

I have this photo.  I believe it is Measure 22 during WWII-before a refit where twin 40mm and Mk. 51 directors were added.  From what I have gathered, she was repainted in Japan in haze gray and deck gray before being recommissioned and heading for Korea.   Here is a link to a photo of the Incredible on her way home from Korean service.  No life ring higher on the superstructure, but note how the one below the overhead sticks out.

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Posted by sharkbait on Sunday, June 16, 2013 5:51 AM

Somewhere, someplace, I saw a photo of life rings during the 50's and they were orange, then someone else told me they were orange on the "inside" and matched ship paint on the "outside"

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, June 16, 2013 1:30 PM

Perhaps the orange inner side was hung up against the bulkheads and the gray outer side hung up exposed.

 

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Posted by dhenning on Sunday, June 16, 2013 7:23 PM

Here is the link to the photo of the Incredible that I mentioned.

www.navsource.org/.../110224901.jpg

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