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Build order for Dragon's 1/350 USS Buchanan

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Build order for Dragon's 1/350 USS Buchanan
Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:59 PM

As I've mentioned before in other threads I'm going to build the above kit to represent the USS Duncan (DD-485) as she was at the time she sank - (October 12/13, 1942).

I've done enough research to now know that she was in measure 21 by October 7, 1942 (five days before she was lost), that she had a shorter searchlight "tower", but that almost all the other aspects of her build were identical to that of the Buchanan. I will have to check with my friend for whom I'm building this model (he's written - but not yet published - a book on DD-485) whose dad was among the casualties that fatefull night in the Battle of Cape Esperance regarding the kinds and quantities of directors, etc., but, for my purposes, I'll build her pretty much like the Buchanan model with the exception of the (included in the kit) shorter searchlight platform.

My question is really for those of you who have built 1/350 navy ship kits which have included or you have bought third party PE. I've bought the GMM PE for this kit. I just don't know the order in which I should proceed! My thinking is to paint the hull after removing (or filling in) the portholes (they were plated over on the Duncan) and then painting the main deck. I am confused as to when to paint what when I work on the other structures in the kit. For measure 21 all vertical surfaces should be Navy Blue 5N (I'm using Lifecolor acrylics for this ship) and all horizontal surfaces should be Deck Blue 20B. How does one consider the painting of the turrets? 5N all around except the top which is 20B? How does one paint the other structures with PE? Do you paint the PE on the tree after having painted the plastic and then put them together? Do you put everything in a structure together first and then paint? (that would be almost impossible to mask).

I'm sure confused as of the moment and I'd appreciate some input/advise from anyone with experience doing this sort of build.

Sorry for the naive questions but I'm afraid I'm just like a deer in the headlights - frozen with anxiety about getting started.

Here's a comparison shot of the Buchanan model and the Duncan 5 days before the Battle of Cape Esperance.

Mike

 

Mike

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Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 6:06 PM

Somehow the picture I wanted to post did not make it in. Here's the URL:

http://michaels.0catch.com/comparison.jpg

Mike

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Posted by rwiederrich on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 7:46 PM

Looking forward to your build...Mike.

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Posted by plasticjunkie on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:37 PM

I did the 1/350 Bismarck a while back and it should be similar in procedure. Turrets are left off to mask the sides and paint the tops, same for the superstructure so the deck can be sprayed. That or masking. If it's a really fragile area to work with the pe then leave it off, paint it separately and glue it on afterwards. Any glossy super glue spots can be touched up later. You are just going have to improvise as you go along. I hope this helps.

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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 8:44 PM

So, general philosophy is to build UP and then OUT. Don't put deck-edge parts on before pieces inboard of them, so that you are not reaching over and breaking them.

I usually build the hull and major superstructure components sans most details (including the prop shafts & rudders until right before I paint), and then when that's done I paint that. For me, it seems to work best to start at the bottom with the hull red, then do the boot topping, then the camouflage. Typically the advice is to go lightest paint to darkest, but I find the taping to be easier if I work upwards due to how tape works on compound curves.

As far as the transition from 5-N to 20-B, it looks like it's at the top corners of the turrets.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:02 PM

Thanks plastickjunkie and Tracy.

What you've said seems to be a logical build progression. I guess when I build the deck houses and bridge superstructure I should get them together without the PE, paint them, then add details including most of the PE parts that that I will have painted separately therefore not worrying about masking around "fiddely" parts.

I will take Tracy's advise about starting to paint at the bottom of the hull. I'll try to match the boot stripe from the picture and do that next, then on the the Navy Blue for the rest of the hull above the stripe.

Thanks again,

Mike

Mike

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Posted by Tracy White on Wednesday, June 26, 2013 10:08 PM

Yes, there are some that will assemble the kit and photo-etch before painting, but I've never been able to trust my hands enough to not damage and destroy in that method, so PE is applied after the main paint is down, and then touched up..

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, June 29, 2013 8:47 AM

Hmmm.

   1943 MIKE : Couldy you be the same age as I ? Anyway , I always leave ALL the P.E. on their frets and drop them in some lacquert hinner for about five minutes .then wipe dry and go over the surface on both sides with 2000 grit sanding paper (wet ) rinse , prime an paint .       Tanker-Builder .

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Posted by 1943Mike on Saturday, June 29, 2013 10:32 AM


Tankerbuilder,

Thanks for the suggestions. I'd rather not use laquer thinner if I can help it. With the PE still on the trees I think I'll try bathing it in vinegar for 30 min. or so, rinse and hope that that'll work.

Age? D.O.B.: 01/30/1943

Mike

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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