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Rigging a 1:350 Liberty Ship
Posted by Grunt0311 on Monday, July 15, 2013 11:21 AM

I recently picked up the 1:350 Liberty ship Jeremiah O'brien at a yard sale for $3.00. The kit is complete as the sprue trees were still in the orignal plastic. What I'm looking for is any information, diagrams etc. on how to rig the ship. As a cargo ship it would look naked without some form of rigging. Any help will be appreciated. 

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  • From: Frisco, TX
Posted by B17Pilot on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:31 PM

If you find something let me know as well. I have one of those kits and have been avoiding it for that reason

  

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:45 PM

Here is a collection of images:   http://www.bing.com/images/search?q=liberty+ships&FORM=HDRSC2#a

Here is a link to a photo etch detail set for the kit:

http://www.modelwarships.com/reviews/pe/gm_etch/350-31-liberty/ship_details.html

 

 

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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  • From: Towson MD
Posted by gregbale on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 1:46 PM

Searching previous posts is GOOD.

This link from a previous discussion:

www.globalsecurity.org/.../14067_ch4.pdf

Pages 21-24 should give you a place to start.

(Mind you, there's a wealth of other detail included in that document. Well worth looking through.)

Cheers

Greg

George Lewis:

"Every time you correct me on my grammar I love you a little fewer."
 
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Posted by pebbleworm on Tuesday, July 16, 2013 7:30 PM

You could go right to the source:

www.ssjeremiahobrien.org

or

http://www.liberty-ship.com/

Both ships are still operational- if you are anywhere near San Francisco or Baltimore go for a cruise, take a bunch of pictures, slap a caliper on every cable and have a great time!  Just a suggestion.

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 8:54 AM

I don't know if you want to spend the money on a PE set, but Tom's Modelworks has a nice set that includes blocks for rigging.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, July 17, 2013 4:06 PM

My daughter has a male admirer who is an engineer on the O'Brien. He gave me a behind-the-scenes tour one time that was really great. He's also given me stuff that my wife wants me to get rid of, including a four foot long piece of 1/2" dia. steel rope. Might be a tad thicker.

The ship in it's usual state is a clutter of welding tanks and hoses, chipping guns, paint cans, barricades and wooden shoring and all kinds of other stuff.

They claim that one of the 20mm cannons works.

He finds it an object of mirth that the lathe has a bubble level on it and adjustable legs.He also pointed out something that he was required to train on- the engine room escape trunk. Said that was truly terrifying.

I got a kick out of the cut away posted before, by Lee. That shaft tunnel is REALLY long. Daughter type wanted to go down to the end of it and back, but NO WAY I was going in there.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by amphib on Sunday, July 21, 2013 12:01 PM

What you need to find is a rigging book of the type used in the merchant marine schools. Break bulk freighters are pretty rare but the rigging used is still useful information. If you have  the opportunity by all means visit either of the liberty ships or the victory ship that are still in commission. The models of these ships that are in the collection at the maritime museum at Newport News are fairly large scale and only have bare representational rigging. To provide the full rigging for just one of the booms would be a daunting proposition.

That said each boom will have a topping lift, two vang or guy lines and the cargo hoist line. Some of these will have multiple pulleys and parts to the line. I have used the term line but in reality topping lift and hoist line will actually be wire ROPE. The vang lines may be manila LINE. As I recall the topping lift and hoist wire rope will be wound on the winch drums. The vang lines will be tensioned using the gypsy heads on the winches and secured to cleats. If the booms were rigged for a stationary yard and stay rig with one boom over the hatch and the other over the dock, the two boom heads would be tied together using one of the vang lines.

Confusing? You bet! Which is why the full rig probably wouldn't be modeled at least not in 1/350 scale.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 2:26 AM

Nah, it doesn't get confusing unt8il you get to gun versus luff tackle; or double or single rigging the hoist.  Or spiffy things like leaving the booms fixed, but running both ends of the hoisting  line to different winches, and letting the opposing "bitter" end determine where the hook went.

But, I grew up with Knight's, Basic Seamanship, and The Bluejacket's Manual for casual reading, too--rigging tackle seems second-nature to me. <g>

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, July 23, 2013 10:52 AM

Here are a couple of shots of my O'Brien using the Toms Modelworks PE set.  Please ignore the peeling boot topping decal- should have sealed it.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by CA Bolick on Saturday, July 27, 2013 4:51 PM

Nice looking ship!

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  • From: Seattle, Colorado
Posted by onyxman on Monday, July 29, 2013 10:12 AM

The topping lifts on Liberties were secured with large chains.  You can see them in this image:

upload.wikimedia.org/.../SS_Jeremiah_O&

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