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Imai Chinese Junk 1/60 (WIP)
Posted by David_K on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 8:34 PM

Hi All!

Well, its been awhile since I posted a WIP on the ol' forum...

Just finished my Chebec, and now I'm excited to begin a new build of Imai's Chinese Junk.

I got this kit on Ebay some time ago, and I figure this is as good a time as any to build it!  Looks like a lot of fun!  It's not a large or complicated kit, but I really dig the textures of the ship, and I hope it'll be fun for other members to watch it come together...

Here's a pic of the box to get the ball rolling!  I'll add more as events warrant!

Thanks!

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Posted by seasick on Wednesday, February 26, 2014 9:13 PM

That's a great subject. I'd like to see how it comes together.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, February 27, 2014 1:27 AM

Very nice grab there Dave. I love Imai kits in fact I searched this one after you posted it and found something else, a topsail schooner, I've been wanting for a while.

Can't wait to see you bring her to life!

I only ever built the old Revell kit, which was, well, a piece on junk.

But I was inspired by the Gann book "Soldier of Fortune" and added a 20 mm cannon in the captains cabin behind a drop transom.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by surfsup on Thursday, February 27, 2014 2:23 AM

I love seeing something different and this should be a good one.....Cheers mark

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Posted by David_K on Thursday, February 27, 2014 7:08 PM

Glad you guys are interested!  It should be fun!  Noticed today that the big deck piece was broken into about 4 pieces!  Guess I'll be doing some preliminary gluing!  Such are the pitfalls of buying previously-owned merchandise!

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Posted by David_K on Sunday, March 2, 2014 2:19 PM

Doing some parts prep today to get ready for airbrushing, and I noticed a part that I wanted to share...this is a great example of things that Imai did with their molds that make some parts, well...special.  This is a canopy/frame of a deck tent...the part is actually perforated where the *canvas* or whatever is separate from the frame, on each side of the long railing you can see the narrow slits on the left of the part...I think little details like this would be easily overlooked by a typical model manufacturer....with a part with this kind of detail, I can make it actually look like a piece of canvas tied to a wooden frame (except for the out-of-scale thickness of the *canvas*, of course!)...

Anyway, maybe I'm blinded by my love for Imai kits, but I wanted to share it!

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Posted by David_K on Friday, March 7, 2014 5:29 PM

Had some time to finish up all the airbrushing of basecoats today...here's a snapshot of the main sail, with only a coat of Radome Tan, oversprayed with some Dark Tan for added texture. Still needs the yards painted, and some additional dingy-ness to make it look dirty and old.  I'm using the kit molded sails...I'll probably go to the extreme with weathering on this kit.

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Posted by docidle on Sunday, March 9, 2014 7:24 PM

This is going to be cool!

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by David_K on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 7:27 PM

Thanks, Steve!  I'm glad you're excited about it, too!  After some of my previous builds, I really think this will be a piece of cake, but it should turn out very pretty, I hope!

Got a little bit of assembly done recently, hull and deck are together, and got some detail painting/weathering finished.  One thing that struck me as odd (and I didn't notice it until after the parts were fitted) was the stern of the ship is apparently *open*...there's no stern!  Yes, there are a couple of guns and some framework, but really, the hull is kind of split in the rear, above the waterline...trippy.

Anyway, here's a few pics of the current state:

The display base-  Hatches-  deck railing with Dragons!-  Caprails-  Hull on the stand-  Deck from above (the interior of the lower decks will be covered by the hatches, so I don't think I'll bother with any detailing down there)  Rear of the ship (you can see how it's left open, I guess that's how they were?)...like I said, there will be some guns mounted in that area, and some framework, but I think it'll be pretty much exposed...have to get in there and do a little painting!

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, March 19, 2014 10:02 PM

Looks awesome Dave!

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by Raualduke on Thursday, March 20, 2014 10:59 AM

Off the beaten path for sure, and I'm loving it

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Posted by docidle on Thursday, March 20, 2014 11:24 PM

Dave,

Is there no transom at all?  What about the directions, do they show a transom?  If you look in "The Ship" you'll see that they were usually very decorative.  I know the book is not the end all and be all of reference material, but in my experience, I have never seen a junk that was open ended like that.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by arnie60 on Friday, March 21, 2014 4:34 PM

Here's a link to a build of the IMAI kit that clearly shows that the bow and stern are both open on the top deck, but there is a "railing" which may or may not have been added by the builder who states that he made some modifications, but not what they were.

http://bennosfiguresforum.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=12867

Hmmm...can't get the link to work right... you will have to copy and paste it.

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Posted by arnie60 on Friday, March 21, 2014 5:35 PM

Looking at that build again. There is no direct shot of the stern to show what he did (bummer). And I really like the red sails too, adds to that oriental flair. I think if it were me, I would have to cover that up unless the boat completely takes care of that.

The mysterious orient...ergo the phrase?

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Posted by David_K on Friday, March 21, 2014 5:39 PM

Just looked up some info from Landstrom's The Ship.

There are two illustrations of different Junk transoms...both richly decorated (as Steve mentioned), but one does appear to have an open port above the rudder, though much smaller than the void on my model.

However, in the text Junks are described as having their hulls compartmentalized into many (as many as 20) watertight bulkheads, to protect the ship from sinking in the event of a leak, or if it were hit by an hornery whale!

So I suppose that open area could just be a cavity, and the remainder of the ship could be perfectly sealed and each compartment dry? Dubious.

Interesting stuff.

Dave

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Posted by David_K on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 5:30 PM

Another questionable facet to this kit...

The caprails on the amidships bulwarks are shaped in such a way that they interfere with the placement of the pinrails on the inner deck...basically, they get in the way of each other, and one or the other must be modified to fit them on the model.  I've decided to re-shape the caprails, re-paint them, and then re-attach.  Shouldn't be a big deal, but it's worth noting for future builders of this kit...also, I think it's just a bit lame...I don't think design flaws like that should exist in my world!  haha

It's also worth mentioning that in the illustration for assembly of this step, it's very obvious from the pictures that the builder for the instructions had to modify the parts, or scratchbuild something new...in the pics, they are just rectangular strips!  Too bad there's no *warning* in the text of the instructions!  :)

Here are the caprails...notice the *bulging* shape!  And here is one in place...notice that the stylish *bulging* shape gets int he way of the nearby pinrail...and it won't sit correctly on the locator pin.  Reference pis of the pinrail with the locator pins....it's very obvious they are too close to each other...  Thanks for looking in! Once I get done with surgery on these parts, I'll post a few pics of the hull with deck furniture in place...hard to believe I'm almost ready to step the masts...very few parts to this bad boy!

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Current Project:  Imai/ERTL Spanish Galleon #2

Recently Finished: Revell 1/96 Cutty Sark

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, March 26, 2014 9:11 PM

Nicely done Dave.  I do not think I have seen such a bad fit problem on an Imai kit.  I expect it on Heller sailing ships and on some other manufacturers.  However, didn't you have a fit issue on the transom of the Imai Santa Maria?  

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:22 AM

By the way, red sails were not restricted to orient.  Apparently there is a preservative that was widely used that made the sails red in color. I am building a Great Lakes schooner that apparently had red sails- they were quite common on the lakes.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Gamera on Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:26 AM

Wow, very neat and different subject. And fantastic job - I love the wood finish you've done.

"I dream in fire but work in clay." -Arthur Machen

 

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Posted by David_K on Thursday, March 27, 2014 9:46 AM

Thanks!

Steve- Now that you mention it, the Santa Maria did have a sloppy transom fit...nothing a few rubber bands and some CA couldn't fix, though!  

Gamera- The finish is a hybrid of acrylic paints, thin black wash, and oil paints...I'm going to spray the whole thing with Dullcote later.

Dave

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Current Project:  Imai/ERTL Spanish Galleon #2

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Posted by David_K on Tuesday, April 8, 2014 6:24 PM
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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 8, 2014 6:38 PM

David_K

If you've ever been to South China in the summer you'll know the wisdom of sleeping out doors.

Spoiler Alert!

In the swashbuckler story "Soldier of Fortune" by Gann, our hero has a 40mm Bofors cannon hidden in there that he uses to enable an escape from PRC patrol boats.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by seasick on Tuesday, April 8, 2014 11:54 PM

If you want to make it a modern junk just stick on a VHF radio antenna, a satellite T.V. dish,  registration numbers on the bow that look like the were painted on with spray paint, and some modern navigation lights.  ;-)

Tags: Modern Junk

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Posted by TD4438 on Wednesday, April 9, 2014 6:50 AM

This thing is awesome!

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Posted by arnie60 on Thursday, April 10, 2014 2:23 PM

David;

You have truly mastered the technique for making it look like real wood/bamboo. I am interested to see how that empty wedge comes out. (weird, weird,weird!)

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Posted by seasick on Thursday, April 10, 2014 11:16 PM

That is an incredible kit, and an awesome build.

Tags: Junk

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Posted by David_K on Friday, April 11, 2014 6:07 PM

Thanks for the kind words, everyone!

Arnie, don't be too surprised when you see that the wedge is left totally open!  Haha

I'll be sure and post a close-up of it for ya!

Good times!

Dave

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Current Project:  Imai/ERTL Spanish Galleon #2

Recently Finished: Revell 1/96 Cutty Sark

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Posted by docidle on Saturday, April 12, 2014 1:12 AM

Dave,

You have done an amazing job of blending the oils on the Junk, well done!

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by David_K on Wednesday, April 16, 2014 7:52 PM

I've taken a few more progress pics today, after getting the anchors installed, and the bamboo "bumpers" outside the bulwark.  For some reason, the lighting at my desk is making everything look very reddish with the iphone camera...the colors aren't actually this red...I'll need to figure out how to fix that.

Anyway, here we go:

The anchors are unlike anything I've used before (like a lot of stuff on this model!)...they have holes near the head, and at the base...since the instructions are super-vague, I kind of used my imagination and ran the rope through the upper hole, and tied it off at the lower one...makes sense, since it's how they would get the anchorhead up onto the deck to secure it.  By the way, the line I used for the anchors is some Corel hemp stuff I got from MS...though it's thoroughly waxed, it still keeps fraying...the more I think about it, the more I realize I need to score a bunch of line from that Syren company I've been hearing about! Here's the bamboo bumpers...bundled them up, held in place with clothespins, wrapped a few times with line, held the line with clips and tied it off with some darker, thinner thread.  Wrapped the line around the railing a few times, and voila!  Here's the finished look of the bumpers...  All that's left now is the rigging...should go pretty quickly...although, as I may have mentioned, the instructions are vague, the pictures are terrible, and my interpretation of the rigging will probably be...creative! Thanks for looking!

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Current Project:  Imai/ERTL Spanish Galleon #2

Recently Finished: Revell 1/96 Cutty Sark

Next Up:  ???

 

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