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  • Member since
    November 2005
  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, March 17, 2014 10:30 PM

Signal halyards see a lot of use, and they get replaced frequently (better to replace one, that having it part in use).  Thus, they can stand out in color photos a bit.  With the change from manilla line to mantled line.

Of course, it's up to modelers' discretion as to which hues and tones are best..

Now, if only there were better references for how the flag bags and the Signalsman station is set up.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, March 17, 2014 8:34 AM

Personally I like them doubled. I think it makes a better appearance.  I use a five mil monofilament, fairly translucent which makes it look a bit thinner than it really is.  Big thing is to avoid pure white or black rigging. One a line is thinner than the eye can resolve, its visibility is driven by its contrast, so we need to reduce the contrast to make it look less prominent and hence look smaller than it really is.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, March 16, 2014 10:51 PM

This poses another problem--to show the signal halyards doubled, or as single lines?

Which then gets to how to model 1/350 5/8" line (0.0018" or 0.005mm)

While on this topic, should one want to fly signal flags (the radio call signal is flown when the radio was manned).  SF's was November-India-Juliet-Zulu, per NavSource.

Signal flags are fitted with a 5' (1524mm) lanyard.  This makes for uniform spacing.  It also allows for signals  needing spaces.  Like Speed 15  Corpen 90.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Sunday, March 16, 2014 11:28 AM

The yard is three pieces of PE that you glue together.  The laminations add some thickness. I use a full-bodied primer (Krylon). I plan to give it a few extra coats (though masking off the pulleys).  That may help.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Saturday, March 15, 2014 5:48 PM

Like perhaps dipping it in a shallow tray of something that could allow layers be made to the correct thickness? Then you could file or sand it to shape? Would CA glue allow that?

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, March 15, 2014 4:37 PM

Is there any way to build up the yard itself to make it round?

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:55 PM

Stand by for loss of vision!

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, March 15, 2014 3:25 PM

Given that those are probably 5/8" signal halyards, the blocks are going to be about 6-7" long to house a 5-6" sheave--then that's some tiny stuff.

But, I applaud them for including that tiny detail.

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Signal halyard pulleys
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, March 13, 2014 9:06 AM

I am building the Trumpeter San Francisco with the GMM photo etch kit.  The PE set includes yards for the fore and main masts.  The foremast yard has little pulleys for the signal halyards, with tiny holes in them to rig the signal halyards!  This is the first I have seen that!  That is great. I had taken to making little pulley eyes from twisted fine wire, but these will be smaller and look better. I hope this feature spreads to other sets in future for modern warships.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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