unusual hobby vice

It's a Panavise Jr.

I don't know for sure what brand it is, but I'll guarantee one thing:  it's not a vice, it's a vise.

Two cents from a retired academic and certified Olde Phogey.

jtilley

I don't know for sure what brand it is, but I'll guarantee one thing:  it's not a vice, it's a vise.

Two cents from a retired academic and certified Olde Phogey.

That's clamping down on those loose consonants  

Steve5  (cool name by the way)   cheezhead's right .

Look here  

http://www.all-spec.com/products/PV209.html?gclid=CLWD3-ixrL8CFRWVfgodd1cA0Q  

for one source.

I inherited a Panavise from my dad about 45 years ago, and it still works perfectly.  Highly recommended - but buy the full-size version if you can handle the price. Here's a link:  http://www.micromark.com/panavise,6737.html .

Oh - and it's seize, not sieze. That's one of the many freaks of the English language:  seize, siege, besieged, seizure.

When a student calls me a grammar nazi, I pat him/her on the head and say, "There, their, they're."

I before E, except after C...

Weird.

thanks for the site, and the laugh jtilley., and you would have to be a prof, to work the English language out.

Steve, believe me, no professor on earth has worked out the English language, any more than anybody else has. It can't be done.

One quirky thing about English is that native English speakers (at least American ones) seem to be the most inept in the world at learning other languages. Getting students at the university where I work to take foreign language courses is like pulling teeth. Whereas little kids in other countries learn English by the millions. Maybe English speakers have labored so much over their own language that they're exhausted. Or maybe they're just plain lazy.

What it seems like to me is that far too many native English speakers are flummoxed by how other languages have Rules.  Which, given the way some folks write, following rules is anathema.

Try German. I understand that the longest word in existence is German!

I firmly believe it's a lazy attitude. English is a very difficult language to learn but people all over the world speak it fluently.

Part of the problem (just one part of it) is that foreign language instruction in the U.S. Is widely considered less important than it is in many other countries. Many states are beefing up their math and science requirements, with foreign languages (and English, and history) taking a back seat. As I understand it, the typical Continental European public school student is required to start learning English in elementary school.

My one experience with Continental Europe was quite a few years ago in Holland. Almost all the cab drivers, hotel housekeepers, and high school kids working in groceries could speak English. (One unexpected aspect of that trip: the Dutch usually assumed that I, with my Ohio accent, was British.)

I was wondering what sort of vice this hobby could lead to... imagine my disappointment when I learned that this was a discussion about a vise... ah well...

Speaking of knowing or learning foreign languages, I am already bilingual, I know English and Bad English.

Steve

Thank you 5th Element.

With the amount of money I spend on this hobby, my wife probably thinks it is a vice.

you people probably, haven't heard too many aussies, discussing the meaning of life. if you want to know what bad English is like

At the school where I work (part-time now) the Geography Department offers a Concentration in Public Administration.  In one edition of the university catalog, somebody left out the L in "Public."  Spell-checker, of course, didn't catch it.

The departmental administrators spent a good deal of time trying to figure out why the  enrollments in that concentration had suddenly gone up.

I've often wished there was a way to remove words from spell-checker's dictionary.  I'd like to ban two from my computer.  The first is the aforementioned P word. (I teach in the area of public history, and I've spent 31 years in mortal terror of the day when I'll be typing that term on an important document and leave out the L.) The other is "untied."  If I had a dollar for every time I've typed "Untied States of America"....

While I love to talk about the English language, and really wish folks on this forum sometimes would use better grammar and such, to address the original post, I usually find a wire or something that is a tight fit through the hole (or one of the holes) in the block (so the block does not flop around.  Then, that wire can be grabbed in just about any vise.  I then rig the line to it, and if it needs treatment of any kind, I can do it while it is still held on the wire and the vise.  It doesn't rotate very easily- you have to wrap, but it is still a cheap and easy way to grab a block in such a way as to strap and wrap.  Sometimes if I cannot find a wire the right size I use a long pin or needle with a taper to hold the block.

jtilley

I've often wished there was a way to remove words from spell-checker's dictionary.

Varies from one word processor to another (also on various forum/OS sofware platforms).

Best way is to carve out a bit of time (hardest step). 

Then hit F1 for Help. 

Click on Index, and type in spell check (or Dictionary) and scan the list for Edit or Modify..

Follow the steps to open the file for editing.  If you know the specific word, CTRL+F (aka "Find") will be your friend. 

Make the changes and Bob is the brother of one of your parents.

English has a lot of base languages, in no particular order, Latin, 'Angle-ish' Saxon, Danish, Celtish, Norman, Huguenot, French, German, & many more.

Then there is dialect, Old Northumbrian, (Norse) is very close to Danish/Icelandic for example.  

Then there are 12 different ways of pronouncing -ough,  cough is not the same as brough!  (Kof & Bruff)

Animals in the field are Angle-Saxon = pig, cow, animals on the plate are Norman = pork, beef etc.  Brits don't speak French though.

The OED has a lexicon of 5 MILLION + words, so we always have many more than just one word for descriptions, and then we have many different meanings for each word, just for fun.

It took an expat Frenchman living in England to invent the Thesaurus, though...

Reflecting my ... Heritage, I speak or understand:

British, English, German, Sasch-ish, Restaurant Italian, Rude French, Microsoft (!), txt-spk, a lot of 'teen & a lot of... rubbish!  

Gee !

Fussy aren't we He! He!  Gotchya ! Hi , Prof . Watchya bildin lately , huh ?   T.B.

P. S.  

     I know what you mean Proff .

When I went home to Austria and then Sicily, to visit relatives , they figured I was Canadian ! I guess the southern drawl threw them ! ( I was raised in Little Rock , Ark .)  And yes , I hate those two words as well !    T.B.

I first thought this post was about a vice and then realized it was about (a) device.

steve5

you people probably, haven't heard too many aussies, discussing the meaning of life. if you want to know what bad English is like

tankerbuilder, god knows why they would think you were canadian as we don't have southern draws. the maritimers especially the newfies have real accents compared to the rest of canada except for quebec & they are different.

I agree english is a tough language to learn and speek, espesially slang, how many meanings can one word have ( example the vulgar and overused F word.) I'm slowly trying to learn German on my own as it's my humble opinion that many Americans ( U.S. types ) are a little big for thier britches, we live in a country driven by a different system than most and SOME ( not here and certianly not everyone ) think the rest of the world should bend to thier convience. It really is a small world and it seems to me if the language barrier could be breached maybe several of the problems we are experiencing might just be solved a little easier. FACT  an airline flight originating in Germany and landing in Germany non stop the pilots and ATC are REQUIRED to speak english.

All my years as a hobbyist, on and off again, can hardly believe I've never seen the Panavise Jr before, thanks for this thread. Looks to be a rather handy gadget.

On the English discussion, I've been trying to help my Chinese partner brush up on her English (I call it Chinglish, she is Chinese). In doing so, I have learned how confusing our language truly is. Just never looked at as an outsider before. Has been quite an eye-opener for me.