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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 8:34 AM

Mike,

I'll check it out. I remember being very disappointed with the original DML/Dragon kit.

Bill

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  • From: Kincheloe Michigan
Posted by Mikeym_us on Tuesday, July 15, 2014 8:20 AM
Honestly I don't quite remember but it had a new propulsion section added to the kit to replace the section molded onto the hull with a new 6 bladed prop with curved blades.
warshipguy

Mike,

Does the Cyber Hobby version still have the stabilizers on the stern planes and the little raised "bumps" aft of the sail? Also, the old DML/Dragon kit simply did not really look like a 688 boat. To me, the proportions were off. The Riich kits definitely look more like a 688.

Bill

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, July 13, 2014 6:49 AM

Mike,

Does the Cyber Hobby version still have the stabilizers on the stern planes and the little raised "bumps" aft of the sail? Also, the old DML/Dragon kit simply did not really look like a 688 boat. To me, the proportions were off. The Riich kits definitely look more like a 688.

Bill

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  • From: north carolina
Posted by fighterguru on Saturday, July 12, 2014 11:40 PM
Thanx for all the help and information
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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:17 PM
Bill CyberHobby repopped the 1/350 scale USS Chicago as a Orange box kit and that has the sail planes along with both upper nose halves to build it pre refit to Flight II boat without the VLS hatches and Post refit with the hatches and missile bays. That might be the kit the original poster should go after.
warshipguy

As a Flight 1 688 class boat, Houston had sail planes.  I would go with the Riich Flight 1 Los Angeles (SSN 688) kit over the DML/Dragon USS Hampton (Flight 3).

Bill

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 11, 2014 8:15 PM

Then there's water...

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, July 11, 2014 6:33 PM

If you google around for tugs at current USN sub bases you may find that most are modern double-end  versions as opposed to the "classic" tub conformation which the ISW version represents

Closest commercial I've seen is the Roawangarth by Orange Hobby

 

It is also 1:350 scale, also available from Freetime Hobbies.  

 

The problem I see is detail creep -- sub without PE details required.   Add to it a tug with added PE details,  Next will be the docking detail and bridge crew.  Next the mooring lines flaked out on the deck ...

Less may be more!

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Posted by fighterguru on Friday, July 11, 2014 6:19 PM

Thanx for the advice and help

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 11, 2014 6:10 PM

Let me tell you, I've been modeling fifty years and nothing has ever been perfect.

Your Dad would LOVE it if you painted it pink!

I built two models of the a/c that my F-I-Law crewed in the WW2 mess.

Did he think I got the colors right?

"Hell, I don't know, I was too damned busy climbing in and out of the things".

He'll be charmed.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: north carolina
Posted by fighterguru on Friday, July 11, 2014 6:05 PM
This gonna be my first attempt at somethin of this scale and complexity and I want it perfect
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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Friday, July 11, 2014 5:33 PM

One more thing . . . I have seen many models of U.S. submarines with some strange painting configurations on the bow.  Some paint the entire sonar dome area of the bow with a silver color while others paint the lower hull at the bow silver. THIS IS  INCORRECT!!!!!!

American boats, if painted red below the waterline, carry the red all the way to the bow with the black upper hull also carried to the bow. If the entire boat is black, it is black to the bow.

Bill

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Posted by fighterguru on Friday, July 11, 2014 10:34 AM
Thank u for all of your help im gonna this up right im considering putting this together with a tug
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Posted by warshipguy on Friday, July 11, 2014 9:23 AM

As a Flight 1 688 class boat, Houston had sail planes.  I would go with the Riich Flight 1 Los Angeles (SSN 688) kit over the DML/Dragon USS Hampton (Flight 3).

Bill

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Posted by fighterguru on Friday, July 11, 2014 9:13 AM
I looked at the Hampton kit,did the Houston have the sail planes I did not see them on that kit?
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Posted by warshipguy on Friday, July 11, 2014 8:34 AM

The red lower hull depends on era and on the particular boat. I served on six submarines between 1980 and 1996. All had red lower hulls. I also noticed several boats simultaneously had no red.  Also, during that era, the masts and antennae were camouflaged with a mottled charcoal gray/black over light gray. They now seem to be all charcoal gray/black with no mottling. The only time I ever saw the DSRV markings on the hatches were when the boat was still owned by the builder.

Bill

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, July 11, 2014 8:19 AM

More:

Paint it shades of black over gray (no red hulls on operational boats)    No hull number showing (they were magnetic stick-ons while in port) and no DSRV targets on the hatches.   Your Dad will recognize it as home.

Go here     http://navsource.org/archives/08/701/0871322.jpg

Navsource doesn't allow hot linking of their content.   You may have to go in through the top at navsource.org.  .    Navsource is an excellent site with photos & info on  most, if not all USN ships

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, July 11, 2014 8:07 AM

GMorrison

No problem.

62 boats in that class.

Look at Freetimehobbies.com

Plastic, resin all there.

Your dad will be pleased I am sure

Second the recommendation to check with Freetime

The Houston was a Flight 1 boat -- no VLS and the fairwater planes on the sail.

Your best options may be Riich and HobbyBoss.    HobbyBoss's offering has options to do all three flights (No VLS & planes on the sail,  VLS an.d planes on the sail, or VLS and planes moved to hull).     Riich makes individual kits of each flight.    DML/Dragon also made a 3-way kit sold as the Hampton.

Resin kits are good, but pricier.   They were originally done when styrene kits were unavailable.   But now that good styrene are out there I decline to recommend them as first options.

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 11, 2014 1:24 AM

Pleased

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, July 11, 2014 1:22 AM

No problem.

62 boats in that class.

Look at Freetimehobbies.com

Plastic, resin all there.

Your dad will be pleased I am sure

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    February 2003
  • From: north carolina
something for an old sailor.
Posted by fighterguru on Friday, July 11, 2014 1:02 AM

My dad is a former sub sailor Im searching for a kit that I can do for him. USS Houston (SSN-713), a Los Angeles-class attack submarine. Im not sure if they even make a kit for this boat but it would be nice to find one any help would be appreciated. This boat was his last duty station id really love to put something together for him.

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