Lindberg's Harriet Lane

You never know when a bit of information will hit at "just the right moment" for someone.

So your information my well be something , a modeler is just at the, "I wonder if they ever had a kit of..." stage.

I hope you found the Revell USS Buckley as well.

Bill

Bill,

I couldn't find it in stock anywhere, not even in my alternate favorite Hobbylinc Japan.

Not even on eBay.

Mike

Mike,

I will keep my eyes open for you. I will let you know if I find one.

Bill

Bill,

I just found one on eBay. It's for a friend of mine who wants to build one so I've sent him an email with the link to the auction.

Mike

Theres a company called Round 2 that is reissuing all kinds of interesting models from the past.

I've bought a couple of the Q ships for a fun project I am working on.

Terrific! And, I always liked the Harriet Lane kit. I'm glad its released again!

Bill

Bill,

Thanks for that information regarding Round 2. I do believe it's the site I read about on Finescale in the not too distant past (gees, fading memory is sure a disconcerting thing ).

Here's the link for anyone interested in the recent Lindberg reissue kits:

lindberg

Mike

Round 2 offers quite a few old Lindberg kits - some of them originating from Pyro. The Clermont is another worthwhile one (though - heretical though it may sound - I wish it came with the electric motor that made the paddles, flywheels, and gears turn and the piston move up and down).

I'm also attracted by the 1920s British biplanes and the pre-WWI aircraft. All those kits originated with the small British company Inpact, and they're beautiful (for their day). I especially like the Fairy Flycather.

Has anybody out there in the Forum actually bought any Round 2 kits? Apparently they get sold through a model car dealership.

Well I bought two of the re released Q ship kits. I think that was through Round 2, I bought them from Freetime online.

They are nice and clean castings, with crisply printed instructions.

The box is a little weird, it's a hinged top with side and end flaps, like a bakery box.

Round 2 actually bought Linberg and as such the Hawk line and have been rereleasing some of the old Linberg/Pyro kits. I even saw the old Pyro Half Moon in the online catalog  I bought the Harriet Lane/Blockade Runner about 6 months ago and like Bill was happy to see the moldings firmly crisp and clean.

The box is the same as Bill describes but I like it a whole lot better than the side opening flimsy box that Revell uses.

John, I have not purchased a Round 2 kit so I cannot answer what their own kits are like.  Although it looks they havethe Polar Lights , Star Trek and Amt line as well.

Steve

http://www.round2models.com

Round 2 bought Lindberg? After the I-boat fiasco?

Look what is on the wall at the LHS?

Guerrede de Secession! The nerve! It was the War Between the States! :-D

Is that it? I thought it was the War of Yankee Belligerence! :-b

I thought the "Fregat a Vapeur" was pretty sweet.

Hey Lee!

Hey GM! I have a small window of satellite WiFi and thought I'd check in and let everyone know that I'm still alive.

PM inbound!

I have always called it "The War of Southern Independence".

Bill

I blundered into that morass when I moved from Ohio to North Carolina. (Ohio, of course, was the birthplace of such luminaries as U.S. Grant, William T. Sherman, and Philip Sheridan.)

Actually there is some justification for the distinction. If we define "civil war" as a war to determine what faction is to be in control of the country's government, the unpleasantness between 1861 and 1865 was, indeed, not a civil war. The Confederacy had no intention of taking over the United States government; it was trying to break loose of (or secede from) it.

The English Civil War, the Russian Civil War, and the Spanish Civil War were honest-to-goodness civil wars.

On the other hand, no less a distinguished Southerner than Shelby Foote titled his three-volume masterpiece The Civil War: A Narrative. That's a pretty strong Southern endorsement for the term. (I still think they should have gotten him to play Lee in the movie "Gettysburg.")

The depth of emotions about the conflict in question in this part of the country is sometimes downright mind-boggling. I strongly recommend a book called Confederates in the Attic: Dispatches From an Unfinished Civil War, by Tony Horwitz. One of the funniest and, simultaneously, scariest books I've ever read.

Another little bit of historical trivia: legally it wasn't a war. The Congress didn't declare war on anybody - because there was no enemy nation to declare war on. (Neither the U.S. nor any other country ever officially recognized the Confederate States of America as a nation.) What happened between 1861 and 1865 was, in official legal terms, an unsuccessful rebellion.

The students in my American military history courses are sometimes surprised to hear that the United States, in its entire history, has actually declared war five times: against Britain in the War of 1812, against Mexico in the Mexican-American War of 1846-1848, against Spain in the Spanish-American War of 1898, against Germany and its allies in World War I, and against Germany, Italy, Japan, and their allies in World War II.

John,

I have always been fascinated by the irony that, had Congress declared war against the Confederacy, it would have tacitly recognized the Confederate States of America.

I do, however, question the term "rebellion" as implying the attempt to overthrow the government of the United States. As you have stated, there was no such attempt. Indeed, the Confederacy simply wanted to dissolve the bonds between the sovereign states and t he US government. Luminaries such as Robert E. Lee and Raphael Semmes stated that, since the individual states entered into the bond forming the USA, the individual states could break that bond. It required a Northern invasion to start the war, not a Southern rebellion.

How's that for opening a can of worms?  ; - )

Bill

A can of worms indeed - and, let's face it: not a particularly important one. I don't think the word "rebellion" necessarily implies an attempt to overthrow a government, though. Seems like people can stage a rebellion in order to persuade the government to do something.

Another great historian, James McPherson, said it best, I think. He said that whenever he finds himself getting sucked into the trivia surrounding the conflict, he thinks of the number 620,000. That's the number of Union and Confederate graves (including those of men who died from disease).

Shelby Foote is good for me.

There's a whole wiki page on alternate names for the conflict- it's probably best left there.

I had a great American History professor in High School. He was a progressively minded guy, an African American. While he had his own strong views on the subject, considering it the war to free the slaves, he cycled through some groups with different view points. Two gents from the John Birch Society gave a lengthy presentation on the concept of States Rights.

Central to this chat is that our good friend Lee "Subfixer" has emerged from the hinters again. His presence is greatly appreciated, he's always been a really solid part of this corner of the world.

One of the many interesting tidbits in Mr. Horwitz's book: in Mississippi, the period 1861-1865 is not part of the high school history curriculum in the public schools. (At least that was the case when he wrote the book.)

Welcome back, Subfixer! We've missed you.

jtilley

................The English Civil War, the Russian Civil War, and the Spanish Civil War were honest-to-goodness civil wars.

Those wars also tended to be much, much nastier than our "War Between the States " 

Prisoners on both sides of our conflict tended to die more from willful " neglect " rather than outright slaughter as happened during the above mentioned three civil wars. Civilians did not fare much better than the soldiers of those conflicts.  ......IIRC.

jtilley

Welcome back, Subfixer! We've missed you.

John,

Well said!

Bill

If Shelby Foote considers it a "Civil War", that is good enough for me, too. But I wonder If he calls it that just to identify his books for the average reader.

Thanks guys, it is good to be back. I suffer from sporadic WiFi accessibility because I now live in a rural area. .

Hey Proff !

    Round 2 is quite common both in my L.H.S. and in the Squadron catalogue . They have for some ten years I think , been bringing out oldies but goodies in cars and other stuff .

   I have yet to find one of their kits that hasn't been " cleaned up " . I think they are reconditioning the molds anyway .Some of the autos are better now than when new . I don't know about their ships , but I have acquired some of their Sci-Fi and Cars , great memories in those Boxes .

      You can get a Mabuchi can motor that will work for the " Cleremont " . They are common in model train sales outlets .                                                     Tanker - Builder

Well !

  Sporadic is better than no you !  T.B.