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Fulton- North River of Clermont

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  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Friday, February 27, 2015 1:36 AM

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Landstrom has a red ink on white sketch only,.

The Albany Museum has a good collection of newspaper articles about her.

She had a following sister; the Phoenix I think.

I'll try the line of house colors for Livingston- Fulton

Funny how Lindberg is so in the news now.

I've avoided their kits for years, but now have the Q ship on a build and the President Wilson in the stash.

Oh and that Nantucket Lightship.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    May 2003
  • From: Greenville, NC
Posted by jtilley on Thursday, February 26, 2015 1:10 PM

Try this link:

cs.finescale.com/.../500756.aspx

I found it by doing a Forum search on "Clermont," and then focusing it on the posts I'd made.

I had the chance to do some digging about this vessel while I was at the Mariners' Museum. It's a fascinating topic. I put my recollections about it in that other thread.

My fairly firm recollection is that (A) Fulton's patent drawings contained pretty good, reliable drawings of the basic machinery, and (B) there are no other reliable plans of the ship. I suspect she may have been built without plans, and Don's right: the contemporary pictures are utterly inconsistent.

That old Lindberg kit is one of my favorites. It's pretty basic, and I'm sure there's plenty of room for argument about the hull shape, but so far as I know there's no firm evidence to contradict it. I sure wish Round 2 had included the old Mabuchi motor. I'm no fan of motorized models, but that one was downright ingenious. All the machinery - piston, gears, flywheels, paddles, etc. - worked - with only a tiny worm gear sticking out from under the forecastle deck to betray the presence of the motor. And, as I remember, the kit came with some really nicely done figures - including a lady passenger. (I think that may have been a first: a female figure - other than a figurehead - in a ship model kit. I know of only one other example: the Airfix Mayflower.)

I'm sure I'm looking at that old kit through rose-colored glasses (abetted by an increasingly senile memory). But I think the potential for an outstanding model is there. Good luck.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

  • Member since
    September 2005
  • From: Illinois: Hive of Scum and Villany
Posted by Sprue-ce Goose on Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:52 AM

I seem to recall reading in an FSM forum thread that the kit was based upon a reconstruction and am uncertain of the thread's title at this time as the link posted in this thread comes up with a server error.............

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/p/61669/1424352.aspx#1424352

  • Member since
    November 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Fulton- North River of Clermont
Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, February 26, 2015 9:41 AM

I was over at a friend's house when he showed me a model of the Clermont (Lindberg) he was going to start soon.  I had never seen this kit, but I had to have it because i am really into early steam.  He said it had been reissued awhile ago and was readily available- which proved to be true and I got mine yesterday.

I started searching for reference material beyond what I already had.  Because of the early date I was expecting the divergence I found.  I assume some of the divergence may indicate mods during service, as the two deckhouses fore and aft of machinery being modified to a cabin that encompassed the  machinery.

It seems that coloring is subject to the widest divergence- many illustrations showing black hull with white deck and white above deck (except for stack).  No illustrations show below waterline (not surprising) so I guess I am on my own for that.

One discrepancy that bothers me is how sharp the bow  was and how it faired into sides.  About half the illustrations show a constant angle from bow to that transition and a sharp discontinuity.  Others show a more gradual transition between bow angle and sides.

Anyway, wondering about recommendations on resources, and what folks think of planform and maybe the coloring.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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