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Sao Paulo, CV A12, Heller 1/400 kit# 81071 OOB Review and Build

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  • From: Idaho, USA
Posted by Jeff Head on Thursday, April 9, 2015 10:46 AM

Yes...I intend to build the Indian carriers...as soon as the Vikramaditya or the Vikrant become available in 1/350 scale.  

I will add a Koilkata DDG, two Shivalik DDGs, and a couple of Talwar FFGs to the Strike group...along with the Chakra Akula II SSN.

The only thing available now would be an Akula II sub, built and painted to be the Chakra...but I am really waiting for one of those carriers.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 8, 2015 4:03 PM

There's India. I thought you had that one.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Jeff Head on Wednesday, April 8, 2015 3:32 PM

Well, I am trying to build 1/350 scale carriers and their strike groups for all of the major/modern sea powers who have them.  I have my status, and a review & build page for each at:

www.jeffhead.com/modelbuilds

The Brazilian Sao Paulo was really the last right now.

I have a US Navy CSG centered on the USS Enterprise, CVN-65, 1/350 scale Tamiya model (one day to be replaced by the1/350 scale USS Enterprise, CVN-80, Ford Class).

I have a Royal Navy CSG centered on the HMS Invincible, R06 , 1/350 scale Airfix model (to be replaced one day by a 1/350 scale HMS Queen Elizabeth, R08, model).

I have a French Navy CSG centered on the Charles de Gaulle, R91, 1/400 scale Heller model.

I have a JMSDF (Japanese Navy) CSH centered on the JS Hyuga, DDH-181, 1/350 scale Fujimi model (to be replaced at some point by a 1/350 scale Izumo model).

I have a PLAN (Chinese Navy) CSG centered on the Liaoning, CV-16, 1/350 scale Trumpeter model.

I have a Russian Navy  CSG centered on the Kuznetsov, 063, 1/350 scale Trumpeter model

And now I have the beginnings of a Brazilian CSG centered on the Sau Pailo, A12, using the 1/400 scale Heller model of the Foch (as I say, one day to be replaced by a 1/350 scale model of their new carrier).

it's been a lot of fun.

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Posted by Jeff Head on Wednesday, April 8, 2015 3:22 PM

Yep.  I guess you could probably find the decal material, and then get a printer you could print it to.  Then use Photo Shop or some similar graphics program (Paint shop Pro perhaps) and then create them in color and print them to the decal material.  Voila!

But that is a little more ambitious than I am looking at right now.

Hehehe...one day, particularly of the Brazilians build their new carrier as they plan and then put Sea Gripens on it, Trumpeter or someone will make a 1/350 scale model of it and include the aircraft and decals.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 7, 2015 6:45 PM

Jeff Head

No problems at all about being critical.  All of us make mistakes and can benefit from additional eyeballs on target.

Refreshing! Hey look, can't remember the last time (never!) I saw a Brazilian aircraft carrier model!

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 7, 2015 6:43 PM

Jeff- you've got me manic now about the a/c markings. Thinking ahead to the Vienticinco de Mayo.

I guess it's time to learn how to make 'em.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Jeff Head on Tuesday, April 7, 2015 12:00 AM

They are wrong...and it was completely my bad.

I noticed it after building...and will end up going back in and reversing them.  I'll have to repost pics when I do.

No problems at all about being critical.  All of us make mistakes and can benefit from additional eyeballs on target.

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, April 6, 2015 9:13 PM

jtilley is correct as they are supposed to have an upward angle not downwards.

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, April 6, 2015 7:41 PM

It's going to be a spectacular model - as usual.

I don't want to be hyper-critical, given that I know so little about the subject, but is it possible that the stabilizers of the Trackers are upside down? On every one I've seen the stabilizers have a very pronounced dihedral. Maybe the problem is the angle of a the photos.

Youth, talent, hard work, and enthusiasm are no match for old age and treachery.

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Posted by Jeff Head on Monday, April 6, 2015 10:35 AM
The Build - Adding the air wing, adding Photo etch railing and details. Completion - April 6, 2015

I began this session by adding the air wing to the deck of the Sao Paulo. The air wing I have built consisted of:

8 x A-4 Skyhawk attack aircraft
4 x S-2 Tracker patrol aircraft
2 x S-70 ASW/SAR Helicopters

I started this session by gluing down the complete air wing on the flight deck of the Sao Paulo.

I added one A-4 taking off at the end of the deck from the bow catapult and four more A-4 skyhawks lined up along the starboard bow.

I added one S-2 Tracker at the wiast catapult with another waiting for launch. Two more S-2s are parked next to the island.

One S-70 is being towed off of the starboard elevator, and another is shown in take-off position between the waist cat and the stern of the vessel.

Finally, I have three A-4 Skyhawks parked around the aft end of the flight deck.

At this point it was time for me to add the photo etch railing. There was a lot to add...but luckily, in my last build, between the photo etch that came with the USS Iwo Jima, LHD-7 kit by Gallery, and the after-market, complete photo etch kit I bought from White Ensign models, I had a lot of 1/350 scale railing left over. More than enough to do the Sao Paulo.

The flight deck is surrounded by an enclosed service walkway except along the starboard side by the island. The Island and the sponsons required a lot of railing, as did numerous auxiliary decks along either side of the vessel.



With the photo etch railing complete, I then added the various antennae and sensors around the flight deck as well as the propellers. This completed the building of the model and left her looking very well indeed.



With all of that done, I then did some touch-up paint work, added two coats of dull/flat clear coat paint, and took the final display pictures.

First, the overall pictures from all quarters.





And then a few close ups of the Sao Paulo and the details from this build:



And there you have it. The Brazilian Navy aircraft carrier, Sao Paulo, A12, in 1/400 scale.

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Posted by Jeff Head on Friday, April 3, 2015 3:08 PM
The Build - Completing the air wing, photo etch sensors, sponson details - April 3, 2015

I started this session by completing the building and painting of the airwing. I added the landing gear, the drop tanks for the A-4s, and the small photo etch propellers for the S-2 Trackers. Then I painted them in a light ghost gray, with black cockpits, tires, and propellers.

One thing lacking is 1/350 scale Brazilian decals. I cannot find any Brazilian decals in this scale for the A-4s , the S-2s...or for that matter, any other Brazilian aircraft. I will have to place the aircraft without those markings and I regret that...but perhaps some day OI will find them and can add them later.

I then added the photo etch sensors for the island and other domes and sensors on the island. At this point I also added the decals.

The photo etch was taken from left overs from some of my other photo etch kits to mark the three main radar masts.

I added some radar domes that are seen on the Sao Paulo as well. The decals consist of the "12" for the pennant number. On the actual ship this is preceded by an "A" but I do not have an white, shadowed As that are of the right size. I positioned the decals so that a future date I can add them and have them line up appropriately.

While doing this I also added details to all of the sponsons, including some of the enclosures the Brazilians put over the now empty 100mm gun emplacements. This also included the life rafts and some various equipment I obtained from left overs on other models. I also added the ship's launches on the deck on the starboard side below the island and flight deck.



As you can see from that last picture, she is looking really nice now.

In the next session, I will add the photo etch railing and then position the aircraft on the flight deck and complete the model.

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Posted by Jeff Head on Thursday, April 2, 2015 9:53 AM

Thanks!  

No, it's not, hehehe, pot metal.  Standard Photo Etch stuff.

I did the Illustrious too.  You can find my review and build of it here on Fine Scale Modeling, or on my site, here:

My Build and Review of HMS Illustrious in 1/350 scale

I am really looking forward to the day that they come out with the new Queen Elizabeth Class and the new Ford Class carriers in 1/350 scale. Both of those will be nice and are definitely on my Wish List!

Airfix makes good kits too. But for 1/350 scale, Trumpeter, Gallery, Bronco, and then Dragon probably have the best detail.

I did build the Heller Charles de Gaulle in 1/400 scale too...it is reviewed here on Fine Scale and on my own site too.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, April 1, 2015 8:45 PM

Hope the rail isn't pot metal, LOLs.

I like this project. I've considered a similar one with the Arromanches/ Colossus kit to build the Argentine Veinticinco de Mayo.

But I need to finish Illustrious first.

I have found the Heller kits to be very nice.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Jeff Head on Wednesday, April 1, 2015 6:44 PM
The Build - Gluing down the flight deck and island, adding details, starting air wing - April 2, 2015

I began this session by gluing the flight deck to the hull. I had built a small segment of the hanger to see into the ship through the open deck-edge elevator, and then clamped the deck down.

Then I added some of the details that are on the Sao Paulo as well as gluing the island to the deck.

Then it was time to add the deals. I used the standard French deck decals...I believe the Brazilian use the same pattern but a little different color. They went on pretty well. I cut the longer strips into three parts and added them that way. it was a good thing too. These decals are a little old and tended to come apart easily.

I filled in the holes for the 100mm gun mounts and the Crotale missile launchers. I then began building the A-4 Skyhawks and S-2 Tracker aircraft I purchased. I will put eight Skyhawks and four trackers on deck. later I will build four Seahawks to use for the S-70 helicopters the Brazilians have purchased.

These A-4s and S-2s are not plastic. So gluing them together is a little more dicey. I find that the plastic glue sets up hard enough to hold the tiny wings, horizontal stabilizers and landing gear in place...I just mix in a little of the other gluing compound you would normally use for this material.

In this session I got the wings and landing gear added and things are looking good.

I will complete the airwing in the next session, adding the stores onto the A-4s, the propellors on the S-2s and then painting them. I will also build the helos. I hope to have them placed on deck in the next installment.

Then it will be time to add the pot etch metal railing around the ship and some of the specific Brazilian sensors to the island that they have added.

She's looking pretty good.

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Sao Paulo, CV A12, Heller 1/400 kit# 81071 OOB Review and Build
Posted by Jeff Head on Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:45 PM

Review & Build of Hellers 1/400 Kit #81071,
Brazil Sao Paulo, A12, Aircraft Carrier


Last updated: Introduction, starting the model, island and hull - march 30, 2015

Introduction and What's in the Box - October 11, 2014

About the ship:
The Sao Paulo is the Brazilian aircraft carrier. it is the only operational aircraft carrier in South America, and outside of the numerous US Navy aircraft carriers, the only other aircraft carrier in all of the Western Hemisphere.

The Sao Paulo started life as the French indegenously built aircraft carrier Foch. The Foch was the second of the two Clemencceau Class aircraft carriers and served with the French Navy from 1969 until the year 2000. when the French nuclear aircraft carrier, Charles de Gaulle, was completed, the French decommissioned the Foch and sold it to Brazil.

Brazil purchased the carrier to upgrade and replace their first aircraft carrier, the World War II vintage and former British Colossus class carrier, the Minas Gerais, which they had operated for almost 40 years. This gave the Brazilians prior experience in catapault take-offs and arrested landing. After purchasing the Sao Paulo, the Minas Gerias was retired and decommissioned in 2001.

When the Brazilians purchased the carrier, they also purchased 20 A-4K attack aircraft from Kuwait to operate off of her. These aircraft were in good shape and had reltively small amounts of hours on their airframmes. Specifications for the Sao Paulo include:

Length: 873 ft
Width: 167 ft
Beam: 104 ft
Displacement: 33,600 tons
Propulsion: 6 La Valle boilers, 2 shafts
Speed: 32 knots
Crew: 1,920
Airwing: 35 fixed, rotary
Armament:
- 4 X 2 Simbad SAM (8 missiles)
- 4 x 12/7mm machine guns Elevators: 2
Catapaults: 2
Ships in class: 1

In 2005, the Brazilians embarked on a major overhaul of the Sao Pualo, which included some modernization. This refit lasted from 2005 and 2010. It was extensive and included the repair of the steam turbines; maintenance of the surface condensers; retubing the boilers; repair of the high-pressure compressors; maintenance work on all pumps, valves and several structural items; upgrading and modernizing the Optical Landing System processing unit; the purchase and installation of two API oil-water separators; updating the alternating current electrical generator; installation of two water cooling units; an upgrade of the chemical oxygen generator; the repair athe oil tanks; modernizing and updating the Naval Tactical Data System; installation of a new closed-circuit television system; installation of IFF transponders; installation of new MAGE ESM equipments; a complete flight deck inspection, repair and painting; and finally a full updating and modernization of the carriers rcatapults.

A significant modernization of twelve of the A-4 aircraft (nine single seat and three two-seaters) began in 2012-2013. This upgrade significantly enhances the A-4KUs (designated AF-1s by the Brazilians) adding new avionics, a digital/glass cockpit, new, modern weapons, a new Israeli pusle doppler radar (giving the aircraft BVR engagement capabilities) and a refit of the engines and power geneartion as well as data linking capabilites. This signifianctly enhances the Sao Paulo airwing and its capabilites in both the air to air and air to surface areas for the A-4s. The new single seat aircraft are designated AF-1B and the two seaters are designated AF-1C.

These new aircraft will join S-2T Turbo trakcers which the Barzilian Navy has also purchased and is equipping three to the AEW configuartion, three to the TA-4KU tanker configuaration, and three to the COD configuartion. IN addition, Brazil has purchased modern, S-70B Skyhawk helicopters for the Sao Paulo to serve in the ASW and SAR role.

This will create a new air wing for the carrier containg the folowing aircraft:

06 x A-4KU fighter/bombers
02 x TA-4kU tankers
02 x S-2T AEW
02 x S-2T COD
04 x S70-B Seahawk ASW/SAR

This is a total of 16 aircraft that will be normally deployed.

Finally, in October 2014 Brazil announced that they would purchase thirty-six modern 4+ generation Saab JAS 39 Grippen aircraft from Sweden. The aircraft are to be delivered between 2019 and 2024. At least fifteen aircraft are to be assembled in Brazil, and Brazilian companies are to be involved in the full production run, such as parts manufacturers.

The deal includes Brazil's involvement in the development of a Sea Gripen version of the aircraft. The proposed carrier-based version of the aircraft, if fully developed and then purchased, would operate intially from the Sao Paulo and significantly firther enhance the air wing capability of this aircraft carrier.

The Kit:
There is no kit available in 1/350 scale for the Sao Paulo. However, Heller does have a 1/400 scale kit of the Foch. I decided to buy this kit and build her as the Sao Paulo. This will involve removing all of the 100mm guns and the Crotale missile launchers since the Sao Paulo does not have these weapons.

It also meant not using any of the aircraft that were provided with the model (F-8 Crusaders, Super etenards, etc.) because the Brazilians do not have any.

I purchased after market, 1/350 scale A-4K, S-2, and SH-60 Seahwak aircraft to place on the carrier as part of her airwing. I will also use some of the 1/350 scale photo etch kits I have for other vessels to create the railing and sensors for this model.

The Heller kit is an older model. It is well done for the time period, but has quite a bit of flash and the pieces are rather bulky by today's standards. There is also not as much detail as one would get on a more modern model. The PE parts should help in this regard, and the aircratf are much more detailed than the older aircraft that came with the kit fo the former French airwing.

The hull and the flight deck both come as single pieces. The detail that exosts is found in the sponsons, the island, and various weapons and sensors provided. Of course the 100mm guns and Crotale missile launchers will not be mounted so those decks are rather sparse...but this is also the way the Sao Paulo is in life.

The decal sheet is fairly good, and gives good representations for the flight deck. I wil, of course, have to improvise and use other decals for the A12 pennant number since this is not even close to the French number.

The instructions are also rather sparse. Three sheets of large paper with 2 1/2 sheets having front and back instructions. The painting callouts are all for Humbolt, but they just give the numbers so I had to look them up. But, it is also a different paint scheme since it is for the French carrier. The vertical surfaces for the Sao Paulo are going to be nuetral gray, with flat gray for the weather decks, and gunship gray for the flight deck. The below waterline will be insignia red, and a flat black waterline mark.

I will model the kit with the deck elevator up, and the single side elevator in the down position. I do not intend to scratch build a hanger for this carrier.

I will show the haner open, with both Z-8s on deck preparing to take off. I believe I have a Z-9 helo left over from another model which I will show in the hanger.

Here's how everyhting looked out of the box:





This looks like it is going to be fun build. I am looking forward to it and have had the model almost two years waiting to do it. After I am done, at soe point I hpope to find a 1/350 scale model of a Type 22 destroyer. Brazil has three of them and one is almost always escorting the Sao Paulo.

The Build - ISland, hull, props/rudder, flight deck - March 30, 2015

This build is relatively straight forward.

I began by assembling the pieces for the island and then putting it together (without all sensors or the mast), and then painting it.

I then painted the hull and assembled the various sponsons for the hull and attached them. I also painted the flight deck. I then added the props and then masked off the area for the below waterline portion of the hull and painted it. Once this was completed, I then dry fit the flight deck and Island onto the vessel.



That does it for this first session. In the next session I will glue the flight deck and island down and then add the various details to the hull and island, including the elevator and mast.

 

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