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Conversions . Interesting ?

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Posted by Surface_Line on Thursday, June 11, 2015 12:14 AM

My Bogue project was to start with the Revell C-4 hospital ship, cut out a section amidships and extend the sides up with sheet plastic and make the deck from balsa.  The model was ~1/500 scale.  The project got to about 70% when I ran away and enlisted in the Navy in 1973.  When I finally got out I was a through-and-through 1/700 person, and the old bogue conversion still sits.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Tuesday, June 9, 2015 3:07 PM

You Know ;

You could take the Pilot and convert her to a small liner or Banana Boat !

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, June 8, 2015 3:05 PM

I do have a project I started to convert the Hawaiian Pilot into a Bogue. Long story short- absent a really good set of drawings a carrier is darn hard to redraw and design. And the scale is wonky. And and, with a very nice Gambier bay model out in 1/350 (not a Bogue but still a CVE) desire to kill myself figuring it out diminishes.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Monday, June 8, 2015 2:48 PM

I have to post this ;

    How many of you have thought about taking Revell's Tanker Or Texaco's " North Dakota , for that matter and doing this . Convert it to a jeep carrier or a ship like the GLOMAR EXPLORER . You would even have space to have the upper part of the Moon Pool visible !

      A simpler conversion is this  .Using lots of sheet and doing some cutting  , oh , and steal the lifeboats from the Queen Mary or the S.S. United States you could build your own liner ?

Here's a last one . Shorten the S.S. United States liner model down to one stack and do the Andrea Doria .

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, June 7, 2015 1:38 PM

I too, have used Rustoleum for difficult colors to match, as long as it is for a large piece.  Finer details and parts need less paint though, and I am very hesitant to use these spray cans on them.  Have you done so? If so, what were the results?

Bill

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, June 7, 2015 9:39 AM

Thanks Bill!

Take a look at the Lindberg Q ship re-release thread here.

http://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/162687.aspx?sort=ASC&pi240=1

Fred and I both (knuckleheads) took this one on.

The deck rustoleum color is the shaker can Ace generic version of the real thing. I used the real thing on the hull. Yes it's a great looking bright red. I never worked on a ship, but when I look at the tankers moored at the Chevron dock in Richmond, that's the color of the decks.

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, June 7, 2015 9:14 AM

GMorrison,

Your freighter is gorgeous!  What kit did you start with (if not scratchbuilt)?  I also like your use of Rustoleum paints for large parts like the decks. Beautiful job!

Bill

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, June 6, 2015 11:08 PM

Well, the armor guys have an adantage00their subjects are built by the dozens, if not hundreds or thousands.  Often several per day, and spanning across variants and types.  Consider the German Pzkw iii, which was built from of 1935 to 1945 in, what, a dozen variants?

Not even destroyers roll off that fast (and, if they do, it's from different yards).

For capitol ships, there is the fact that the more modern a ship is, the shorter its service life gets (barring carriers).  So, that limits the sorts of conversions we can do.

Now, there is some range in US carriers--Midway, Lexington, etc.  Bit, those conversions are daunting to the neophyte or even mid0range modeler for the level of surgery and scratch-building needed.  (Not like converting a Panther into a Bergepather.)

Does not mean that there are not things that could be done.  Like a couple of Iowas into a Montana, for one.  Or a Iowa into the proposed BBGH configuration.

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Friday, June 5, 2015 3:35 PM

You done good guy !

Thas poifect ! Now , alls you gots ta do is put her back togedda ryte ?

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Posted by onyxman on Friday, June 5, 2015 12:06 PM

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Posted by onyxman on Friday, June 5, 2015 12:05 PM

That's better. I ran the waterline from the top of the propeller aperture.

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, June 4, 2015 12:30 PM

So take a look at this. The deck red is the "Ace Hardware" generic version of Rustoleum Red primer, which I used for the anti-fouling paint. Yes it does look the part, doesn't it?

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, May 30, 2015 1:54 PM

Yeah ;

Now your cooking!. I do believe that does it ! Question , Maybe . Well no question , But you plan on loading a lot at dockside by hand right ? that explains the doors on the sides . Don't forget the cargo booms though .You are going along very nicely sir !

     If you wanted to lighten her up some you could paint the area below the deckhouse on each side , to the maindeck bulwark top . white or sand to match the above deck areas .The paint would also give her a smoother sheer line .

     I do like the red you used on deck . That is reminiscent of the deck color on a lot of ships of that era .

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, May 30, 2015 1:50 PM

Daylight come and me wan go hoome !

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, May 30, 2015 11:54 AM

Why do I hear "Day-O" in the back of my mind now? GM, that is a very nice job on that freighter.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 30, 2015 11:38 AM

OK Tanks, you started this- an interactive realtime buddy build/ conversion!

What do you think? Looks about right to me. Fred, Bill any other comments welcome.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 30, 2015 11:24 AM

It would be about that ,yes.

I would expect it did carry supercargo. They don't weigh much.

I am going to raise the waterline today. Pretty simple to do, still have that can of Rustoleum around somewhere...

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, May 30, 2015 11:19 AM

Now , I don't know about that !

     The hull does leave a lot to be desired . I've got three .One O.O.B. One being converted and one that will be the basis for a tanker of the time . I presume that one will be a bugger bear . I will let you know .

Did you say Bananas ? Each stalk of bananas weighs in at about 100 lbs . Did you know the non , " Q " ship version carried passengers too ?

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 30, 2015 9:55 AM

I agree it's been a see saw. Moved the w/l once already. Where I have it matches photos, which of course don't show the wet part. Part of the story of a conversion, impossible to control all of the parameters.

Tilley warned me- probably easier in the long run to carve the hull to spec.s.

When the ship modeled was sunk by a submarine it was in a different color way.

Hey bananas don't weigh much, right?

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Saturday, May 30, 2015 9:48 AM

Very Nice .

    I like Lindberg because you are not destroying a paycheck worth of model to convert one ! I like your choice of colors too ! The only thing I would've done ( because of many years around ships ) is brought the underwater color within one half inch of the side of the main decks .

     Those "tramp " steamers drew a lot of water loaded . Now where is the submarine ?

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, May 29, 2015 4:52 PM

Two Lindberg "Q ships" end to end.

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Conversions . Interesting ?
Posted by tankerbuilder on Friday, May 29, 2015 3:23 PM

                 I know many Armor builders either do their own or wait till the conversion kit comes out. There's  not , to my knowledge many conversion kits for ships .The ones that are out there are resin and P.E and cost a small fortune .

    I did discover something though .We have four great ships in the IOWA class . How come I haven't seen or heard of a kit that takes them back to 1944-45 fit - Who knows ? My L.H.S. hasn't either .

      Now all that said , a friend from way back came to mind . Him and I had a friendly competition in conversions . We used LINDBERG's D.E. KIT and REVELL's Forest Sherman kit and sometimes the Tanker from Revell . Boy  , did we have fun .

       Now my friend was LEGALLY blind .He could still see very close up though . He's the one I've mentioned in past posts that got me started on those Gorgeous , Not available  anymore , Bandai 1/48 scale Armor kits .You know the ones with FULL interiors and engine spaces ?

    Anyway I digress . We settled on these ships on a voyage of logical progression of design program once and I can't believe what we came up with on the D.E .s ! There must've been thirty or forty we did and Then found at least half in Jane"s fighting ships books .

       The fun was using found and parts box parts and a lot of putty and Evergreen plastic . I used to use cut down . 22 rounds ( the brass ) for over large mushroom vents on the D.D.R.s . So did he ! We even  , without each other knowing it , created a Catamaran hulled , Radar Picket ship Using glue bomb U.S.S. Decater models ( A Forrest Sherman Class ) Revell release . It was a blast .I recommend everyone try it at least once , Just for the fun of it !    T.B.

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