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Where are the CO's quarters in modern warships?

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Where are the CO's quarters in modern warships?
Posted by dirkpitt77 on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 11:06 AM

So, I'm working on the Dragon 1/350 U.S.S. Ticonderoga CG. On the superstructure a deck or two below the bridge, you can see two portholes facing forward, and on the port side of the superstructure there is another porthole. I had imagined this port side, forward facing corner might contain the CO's quarters, since I couldn't think why a typical ship's space would need windows other than for the extra liveability afforded to upper ranking crew. 

Can anyone confirm my theory, or point me to photo references of a typical captain's quarters on a modern warship? I've gone through Google, but a lot of that refers to the age of sail or WW2. Any info on where senior officers' quarters are located and what they look like would be great if someone has it. 

Thank you!

Chris

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 12:57 PM

I did a little Googling and learned that the Captain has two cabins on a Aegis Cruiser. At "at sea" cabin located a short distance away from the Bridge, and an "in port" cabin, located two decks below, near CIC.  Seeing as how an Aegis cruiser is also the air group defense command ship for any battle group, there may be some other command cabin there also.

 

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Posted by RobGroot4 on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 4:32 PM

Most larger modern warships (at least USN to include destroyers, large amphibs, carriers, etc.) have an at-sea and inport cabin for the CO.  The at sea is close to the bridge, the inport is for the CO to conduct official business and entertain at times.  It depends on how big the ship is as to how nice the inport cabin is.  The at-sea is generally about the size of a stateroom.

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Posted by ddp59 on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 7:45 PM

on the Spruance class, the captain's sea cabin is on the 3rd level starboard side on the otherside of the bulkhead from the starboard bridge wing. I presume will be same on the tico's.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Wednesday, July 29, 2015 8:48 PM

Lest any get the wrong idea, the Sea Cabin is about 8 x 8 (that's feet, not meters), with an equaly small head, say 3 x 2 attached.   All of the plumbings, electrical, and ventilation protrudes from the walls and is not buttoned up.

As was pointed out above, the Captian is responsible for all actions of his ship, awake or asleep.  So, such sleep as is possible is mere steps from the Bridge, where junior officers are taught the nuances of watchstanding and ship's navigation.

The in-port cabin might be as luxurious 10 or 12 by 12 or 14 feet, with a proper washroom attached.  The mechanical s are behind panels for a neater look, too.  There's a "day cabin" on some ships, where the CO has a desk, perhaps even a couch.

For ships designated/designed/meant for flagship duty, there will be a replica of the Captain's quarters.  These are the Flag Sea Vabin, and the Flag In-port cabin.  Flagships will have a couple of staterooms for the Flag staff officers.  In the days of old, battleships even had a separate Flag Wardroom.  There was a Flag Bridge, too--no helm or engine order telegraph, but repeaters for all pertinent navigation and sensors.

I'm pretty sure the Tico's only have the two cabins for the CO.  You fight the ship from CIC; but you navigate from the bridge.  At least with surface combatants.  CO spends a lot more time worrying about running over a lost cargo container than in CIC.

The persons who ought to have a cabin by CIC are Ops and Gunno--they live in CIC.

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Posted by Souda99 on Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:56 AM

Depending on the class of ship the XO's cabin may also have portholes. Like mentioned above if the ship is a flagship or carries out flagship duties their is a cabin for the Admiral. Other wise there is the CO's sea stateroom and in port stateroom and then the XO's stateroom.

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Thursday, July 30, 2015 11:27 AM

Wow, some good info here. Thanks, guys, and if anyone else has comments, keep it coming. I really dig this sort of stuff.

Thanks again,

Chris

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Posted by RobGroot4 on Thursday, July 30, 2015 4:33 PM

Bigger ships have bigger CO's cabins.  The ones on battleships and carriers are pretty big.  A Modern Nimitz Class CO's in-port stateroom is bigger than my living room.

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, July 31, 2015 1:41 PM

I can vouch for CapnMac's statement above. On the nuke cruisers that I've been on, the CO and Flag's inport staterooms were at the forward end of the superstructure; CO on the port side, Flag on the starboard. These spaces were so close to the bridge that I don't remember if he Flag officer had a sea cabin or not, but the CO had a tiny one behind the charthouse.

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Posted by subfixer on Friday, July 31, 2015 1:45 PM

As a side note, the CO's cabin on an SSN is about 8X10, including his head.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, July 31, 2015 11:52 PM

Half of a Captain's sleep, at sea, is in his chair on the bridge (which is not a feature on most subs, I'm reliably told).

The Airedales all wind up with larger spaces since they need the illusion of being in the wild blue yonder  after they wind up grounded with jobs like CO.  (The Air Boss office is near scandalously large--near as big as the their bridge station.)

If one must be sub-surface, Boomer is the way to go.  Ok, there's the Blue/Gold business, and you mostly ever go to [redacted] and back (which makes for lousy liberty call), but you cannot knock the room.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:14 AM

Maybe being in the Airborne Infantry isn't so bad... ;)

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:32 AM

Dunno, AI seems to violate the Gunny's Rule:  Never Walk when you can Ride; Never ride when you can fly; and by all means, alwasy take the boat.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:37 AM

AI flies there... the plane just has a bad habit of not stopping to get off... ;) As far as taking the boat goes... that will work too... when there is the time to do so.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:41 AM

I saw the Captains quarters in the Jeremiah O'Brien. Actually got to spend the night elsewhere, in the black belt area on that level, over on the port side. JOB is berthed to her starboard side. Pretty roomy at about 7 feet by 10 feet and the radio was in an annex off of the room. Must have had at least three portholes. Roomy and sunny. Had a really nice view of the Golden Gate Bridge, too.

I saw the Captains stateroom in the Pampanito, Like my master bathroom , about 4 feet by 8 feet.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:46 AM

I'll bet those huge Russian boomers had pretty big quarters.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, August 1, 2015 12:50 AM

Come visit the USS Iowa now in San Pedro my friend. FDR's stateroom is preserved in all its' luxury. When compared to most everything else onboard for all others is pretty exceptional. I took the tour a year ago with a buddy of mine who was a former sailor and got all sorts of good tidbits from him. It all made perfect sense when explained by a the folks who know it.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, August 1, 2015 1:00 AM

Will do. You bring the beer, I'll bring the barbeque.

I remember a description of Kidd's stateroom on BB-39, just above the waterline wrapped around the stern.  Probably 500 square feet with all kinds of portholes.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, August 2, 2015 1:19 AM

The battle ships an heavy cruisers were unique to their age.

Consider the plans for USS Texas  (online pdf here:  http://www.hnsa.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/bb35.pdf)/

Admiral's cabin, and stateroom are on the 01 deck just abaft the B turret.  Captain's stateroom is on the deck above (this would be the equivalent to the modern in-port cabin space).  There's a teeny cabin on the bridge for the captain.  The XO rates a nice cabin and stateroom on the second deck just adjacent to the wardroom.  Interestingly, there is a "Captain's Office" also on the second deck--this is likely where the CO's Yeoman worked and Mast was held).

Texas was large enough to have the Goat Locker one deck down from the Wardroom, and a separate CPO mess right aft as well. (In our modern times, CPO and LPO are berthed with their Department/Divisional crewmates.).

The Marine Company embarked was  bunked next to the turret they manned (third).  This was also on the Second  deck as well

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Sunday, August 2, 2015 10:17 AM

Hello ;

   To go back a little in time .In the sixties , A Gearing Fram - U.S.S. OZBOURN - D.D.846 . Our Skipper had a 8x8 cabin and office on the main deck aft of the wardroom .Then there was his sea cabin . Just behind the bridge and to starboard .Yes , both had those round windows .

    If we had night Underway Replenishment ( Unrep , now ) you better not wake him afterwards . It was like unleashing a angry bear .That's not good in the limited space of a FRAM - Gearing !

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