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The Santa Maria in Plastic - A List

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The Santa Maria in Plastic - A List
Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:44 AM

Hello All,

It has been some time since I've been here last. Much has happened in the past four or so years, much of it not good at all. Suffice to say, my collection is basically gone, and I am in the position of starting all over again as best I can.

One thing I am doing, though, is writing and planning future projects. I have a blog where I share my thoughts on old ships and model building, and this was shared there today. I am also sharing it here. I hope that this might help steer some model builders in their quest for answers regarding Columbus' flagship.

- RL

The "Santa Maria" in Plastic - A List

There are plenty of models purported to represent Columbus' flagship for the 1492 voyage. I haven't taken a count yet, but I do believe there more wooden kits than plastic of the “Santa Maria” have been produced. That might be a subject for another time. Here, though, is a list of all the plastic kits I am familiar with of the subject. Scale is listed, as well as the interpretation it represents. This is by no means exhaustive. 

 

Aoshima (formerly Imai) 1/60 – Guillen

Heller 1/75 – Guillen

Zvezda 1/75 – Guillen (similar to Heller dies, if not identical or in fact the same)

Revell 1/90 – Guillen

Artesania Latina 1/110 – Martinez-Hidalgo

Lindberg 1/136 – Guillen

Aoshima (formerly Imai) 1/208 – Landstrom I (from “The Ship”)

Lindberg (formerly Pyro) 1/220± - Duro

Heller/Smer 1/240± - Guillen

Airfix 1/300± - Guillen

Gowland 1/340± - Guillen

Zvezda 1/350 - Serrano

 

It becomes immediately apparent that the most common version is based on Julio Guillen y Tato's studies from the 1920's.  This version is unique in that it represents the "Santa Maria" as a caravel, a belief that was not only held by Guillen y Tato but his predecessor Raphael Monleon as well. One of the models listed, the Artesania Latina, is a composite kit, using a molded wood/epoxy hull and wood. While not in keeping with the true spirit of this list, it is included as it represents one of the very few versions of the ship as a "nao" as well as the only model of the renowned Martinez-Hidalgo version.

The oldest model on the list is Gowland's, which was molded waterline and was apparently last available as a ship in a bottle from Addar. While based somewhat on Guillen's design, it has a flat stern and a bit higher sheer. The smaller of the two Heller kits (now Smer) has proportion problems and would probably be a good basis for a conversion to the Martinez-Hidalgo variant.  

I could go into more detail on the relative strength and weaknesses of each kit, but that is probably a subject for another entry. 

(Here is the blog entry)

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, August 9, 2015 10:51 AM

What do you know about the Landstrom 1 version? I'm curious as I've always considered his book to be pretty accurate. And Aoshima is usually good provenance. Does it difer much from Guillen? Your list suggests that the 1/60 Imai is worth a shot.

A lot of work there, thank you for posting.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Sunday, August 9, 2015 11:12 AM

GMorrison

What do you know about the Landstrom 1 version? I'm curious as I've always considered his book to be pretty accurate. And Aoshima is usually good provenance. Does it difer much from Guillen? Your list suggests that the 1/60 Imai is worth a shot.

A lot of work there, thank you for posting.

 

Thank you. 

I've owned or have built everyone of those versions except the 1/60 Aoshima/Imai model. I did help someone with that one, however, and it really is a wonderful kit, as were all Imai's ships. 

The Landstrom I (my designation) version, covered on pages 102 through 105 in "The Ship" is quite a bit different from his later (and in my opinion better) version found in "Columbus" (Landstrom II). There are some details that I feel should be there, such as a means for raising the mainsail (when I built my model a few years back, I added a knighthead like the one found on Landstrom II).

As mentioned, Guillen felt that the "Santa Maria" was a caravel, and modeled it as such. There is no real forecastle on the Guillen version, and it is longer in proportion. When Martinez-Hidalgo began his studies into Columbus' ships, he worked with Guillen. Eventually, Guillen came around to accepting that the ship was a "nao" and not a caravel at all. The second replica built on Guillen's interpretation was modified, I believe in the 1960's, to include the findings of Martinez-Hidalgo; a forecastle was added. The sailplan was also modified to reflect the latter's research.

It is rather easy to take one of the Guillen versions and add the forecastle that Martinez-Hidalgo designed. I am hoping to link drawings of the different versions on my blog in the future.

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Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Sunday, August 9, 2015 12:19 PM

Actually, let me retract some of my enthusiasm. Most of Imai's ship kits were wonderful. There were a few, though, that fell a bit short. 

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Posted by Tnonk on Monday, August 10, 2015 8:18 PM

Long time, no see Rob.

Sorry to hear of your difficulties, hope everything works out OK.

I like what you did with the research on the Santa Maria, really nice work.

I don't stop in here near as much as I would like either, glad to see you stopped in.

Have a good evening my friend.

 

Adrian

 

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Posted by docidle on Monday, August 10, 2015 10:40 PM

Rob,

Good to see you back in action. Great list and I agree the Imai kit is very nice for the Gullien reproduction. Dave K did a great job on her and posted some pictures, although with the new format it is almost impossible to pull up old threads.

Thanks for posting the link to your blog again, I lost it after an OS update.

I hope everything is leveling out for you now and I hope to see see more posts from you. Your insight is always appreciated.

Steve

It is also great to see you too Adrian!

       

 

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:03 PM

Rob,

Welcome back!  It's great having  you here.  I hope that you become more of a regular now.

Bill Morrison

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Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Sunday, August 16, 2015 8:52 PM

Thanks, Bill!

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Posted by Vagabond_Astronomer on Sunday, August 16, 2015 9:01 PM

Hopefully, in a week or so, going to be posting about my build of the little 1/350 Zvezda "Santa Maria". This is a preview - 

Main mast up, with hand for scale.

Standing rigging completed

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