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Wales? You have me, what are wales?
Thank you for mentioning about the John Boardman hull being riveted, never gave it thought. All the pictures I have were from a distance and did not show the rivets. I found a close-up picture of the bow of the ship after it was moved on land and yes there are a lot of rivets. The hull plates must not be thick as a ocean going ship because the over-lap is not all that pronouce. I maybe able to get by using masking tape and spaying a primer to the thickness of the tape and scribing the vertical lines.
I seen some nice raised rivet decals at Micro-Mark in the HO and O gauge.
If you start referring to her as the John W. Boardman, it'll have that great civilian ship sound to it.
Modeling is an excuse to buy books.
Tep, and do share. It would be my guess that an older ship like that would have overlapping, riveted plates rather than welds. To do that adding an additional layer of very thin plastic sheets shouldn't be too big of a job.
As for the rivets, folks have been suggesting the decal ones. I forget who makes them but they come in a bunch of sizes and patterns.
Those ships all seem to have very pronounced and multiple wales, too. Spend a lot of their lives dockside.
Completed the framing for the hull. It doesn't look like much has been done since the first posting but there was a lot of waiting for the glue to cure.
Will be starting to the deck supports and the hull tomorrow. I need to find a good you-tube video on how to simulate hull plating on a flat piece of pvc.
Marcu
There is also the option of homemade (inkjet) decals. The process is pretty well perfected and modern inkjet papers work well. It is easy to do dark color lettering for over light colors, but harder to do light colors, since you would have to cut out the individual letters. The solution is to do your art work using a background color to match the paint. This is usually pretty hard, except for over black. Black is pretty much black, so setting the background to black works pretty well with white decal paper.
Don Stauffer in Minnesota
Hi "G"
Woodland Scenics makes the lettering in quite a few fonts . I have some " Extended Roman " as used by the railroads . It looks great on Liners , and Yachts .As well as " Family Owned " Tugs and Towboats .They also look great on the old Lakes passenger Steamers . T.B. Each Sheet 6" x 9 " has three sizes of the lettering ." Gothic " Number sheets go as small as 1/16 inch in heighth. Ah ! Try em , You'll like them .
Nice to see a laker! That is my most favorite subject!
Yesterday toured the SS Meteor, a whaleback, in Superior, and then the SS William Irwin, in Duluth. Great tours, including getting some nice photos of Port Colborne fairleads and deck winches.
Aha - thats a lotta neat stuff there! I'm building 2 1/700 waterline resin lakers that are 500+ft and 600+ft in length, to scale (geez are they tiny!). The International and The Harverster. A forum freind is/was good enuf to make microscopic decals for me and I hope (prey!) to get them finished early this fall.
Everyone,
Thank you for the information. Put together a list last night of items that will need to be replaced and another list of items I will need to convert her over.
Marcus
Yes, but for a turn of the 20th Century one, just a little small.
One could easily add length to this for instance 11.25 inch plug and she'd be as long as the Edwin F. Holmes/ J.B. Ford, at 440 feet. But I'm sitting here in the cheap seats and I wouldn't know how to get a good joint in Sintra board. It's a common sign material though.
As for Woodland Scenics, the ground turf and scenery supply company, they make some very nice dry transfer lettering in "Gothic" style. I like it for ship lettering.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Woodland-Scenics-WOO-Dry-Transfer-Large-Gothic-Letters-White-MG733-WOOMG733-/391224973704
Blue Jacket Shipcrafters sell all kinds of ship fittings, esp. the older stuff.
http://www.bluejacketinc.com/fittings/
They sell them by actual sizes, not scale. But you are building at 1" = 8'-0" so it's pretty easy to convert.
I think this is a really cool project!
So I'm into lake boats too - this a a 350' boat?? Thats really small compared to last 40 years lakers isn't it?
GMorrison Thats great! Nice research too. Woodlands Scenic dry transfer letters, and I'm sure Blue Jacket has lots of fittings. Looking forward to following this.
Thats great! Nice research too. Woodlands Scenic dry transfer letters, and I'm sure Blue Jacket has lots of fittings.
Looking forward to following this.
Can you elaborate on "Woodlands Scenic dry transfer letters, and I'm sure Blue Jacket has lots of fittings."?
Yep!
All,
Wife purchased this for me two years ago to fill a spot on the wall in the office which is 100% Great Lakes Decor.
Dumas boats states that this kit is based off of 350' lake freighter which got me to thinking what ship were they talking about. Did some research and there was only one freighter built of that size, the John Boardman own by the Huron Cement Company. She was sold I believe in 1965 and renamed the Lewis G. Harriman.
Contacted Dumas boats and they confirmed that the model is based off of the Lewis G. Harriman.
My goal is to turn this kit into the John Boardman as much as my skills and budget will allow.
The boardman was a cement hauler not bulk carrier so I will have to redo the main deck. I am hoping I can supplier of 1/96 scale parts so I won't have to scratch build alot.
Anyway I will post pictures as I go along.
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