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HeLLeR 1/100 1700 ship of the line

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, February 21, 2016 9:00 AM

Sorry all this will be my last post on here.

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 23, 2016 12:22 AM

I wish you would reconsider popping silk.

If I could, I'd love to spend an afternoon modeling with you, and having dinner together with yours and mine.

Sincerely,

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Tuesday, February 23, 2016 3:34 AM

Hi Bill I tried to pm you but for some reason I can't. 

Don't take all the blame mate it wasn't just you, and yes your comment could be taken more than one way and I took the wrong way, I apologise for that.

You all missed the point whether the part arrived or not is irrelevant (to me anyway) the fact that they ignore emails and don't reply to phone calls even though they promise to is my polint.

That is non existent company care (they just ignore you) if I had one reply to an email or as they promised on the last phonecall they would find out what had gone wrong and get straight back to me, it was a week after that phonecall I posted the thread as I had again heard nothing either by phone or email. 

In the reply to my last post.

Stikpush did not infer I was lying he openly said I was "omitting a critical piece of information is akin to lying"

I did not consider that a critical piece of information as, as far as I was concerned whether it arrived or not their totally ignoring me was proof of a total lack of customer care.

I take great offence at that remark from stikpush.

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Saturday, September 2, 2017 2:11 PM

Hi all well thanks to duster and mustang69 I'm back (please be gentle with me) here is where this is up to now (I hadn't touched it for ages but came at it with renewed vigour) I will not return to the previous content so would appreciate everyone drawing a line under it.

Looking at it with new eyes I have decided to cure another fault and fix the hull and so have made it a waterline model, I would appreciate some info on loading supplies from the ships ship (if you know what I mean) 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 2, 2017 4:38 PM

kpnuts
I would appreciate some info on loading supplies

If you are familiar with the ship arrange ment drawings (aka draughts) those will show pendants and/or tackles on the forestay(s) plumbed over the main hatches.

Those are combined with a burton pendant (typically a guntackle--a single & double block pair, not takle taken from a gun) from the end of the mai and fore yards.

Those yards are heaved around to get their ends over the supplying boat (lighter or hoy)

The yardarm tackles are bent together at the hauling (working) end, and also to the tackle over the hold hatch desired.  This union is probably going to be a iron ring, but, it might be a hook.

The load to be hoist aboard (which could be from a tunne--a 168 gallon coopered cask; to a barre, butte, cask or the like) gets a (rope) sling passed around it.  The sling is bent to the hook or ring from the yardarm tackles.

The yard arm tackles are heaved in first.  Those lines will form a "V" to the load in the lighter.  Heaving them in lifts the load stright up out of the lighter.

When clear of the rail of the reciving ship, the stay tackle is heaved in, which pulls the load towards the centerline of the recieving ship as the yard arm tackles are paid out (very slowly).  Eventually, the stay tackle is bearing the weight, and it can be lowered away into the hold of the recicing ship. 

The load is removed, and the tackles backed until the ring is back over the hoy, to repeat the process.

We still use this technique today, if with cargo booms instead of yards.

If you are using ship's boats, mostly likely the cargo is fresh water, hauled in with 68 gallon barrels and 54 gallon buttes (the kind of thing you could muscle ashore and fill from a stream).  Larger cooperage--hogsheads and tunnes would be brought by lighter or hoy, as those vessles have room to bring a full load and not have to save room for rowers and the like.

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    March 2014
Posted by kpnuts on Sunday, September 3, 2017 2:51 AM

Hi thanks for the quick reply. I know practically nothing about rigging so need all the help I can get.

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