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New kits
Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:23 PM

There are a couple of new ship/boat kits in the New Products section of the March FSM.  They are by companies I have never heard from before.

One is the Black Falcon, a brig "pirate ship" by Atlantis Toy and Hobby.  Is this a re-pop of the old Black Falcon pirate ship?  It is only 28 bucks, so even if it is that may not be a bad deal.  The picture, which I know we have to consider with a grain of salt, looks like a pretty standard brig.  Anyone know anything about AT & H?

The other is a wherry, by a company called Plus Models. I have never heard of them either.  This is a laser cut wood kit with PE.  I love doing small craft, so this is of considerable interest to me, especially at 20 bucks.  Anyone know anything about the company?

 

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Posted by Bish on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:29 PM

Don, i can't help you with those kits, but Plus Model make a lot of diorama accesories and conversion sets. They mainly work in 35th and 48th scale. This include wooden crates that are laser cut. I don't have any of there stuff yet, but i do plan on it. They seem highly rated in that area. They are a czech based company.

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Posted by DURR on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:34 PM

Don AT&H makes mostly soft plastic cowboy&indians those funny army men  etc..

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 3:59 PM

The BF is a rerun of the Aurora kit. Even has the same box art. But I'm not sure it's a repop- they talk about new molds on their website.

 

They also have the Aurora Viking Ship...

And a bunch of nice looking paper models of Lakers, which I'm sure you'll like!

http://www.atlantis-models.com/edmundfitzgeraldgreatlakesfreighterboatpapermodel.aspx

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Posted by DURR on Tuesday, February 2, 2016 4:12 PM

i have a bunch of atlantis roman and egyptian charoits  and solders in 172 scale they r about 20yr old i dont think they make them anymore

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, February 3, 2016 9:02 AM

Thanks, guys.  Both kits are cheap enough I think I will take a flyer on them and buy both.

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Posted by jtilley on Sunday, February 7, 2016 2:44 PM

That "Black Falcon" is a real old-timer. It was one of Aurora's first three sailing ships (the others were the Viking ship and the Chinese junk), and dates from the early fifties. Personally, I wouldn't be interested in it - except maybe as an exercise in pure nostalgia, or something to do with the grandsons. Turning it into a serious scale model...well that's not something on which I'd want to use up any of my limited time left on the Orb.

The ship announcement that grabbed my attention was in a little ad from AutoWorld Models (aka Round 2 Models). For a couple of years that company has been marketing a couple of Pyro/Lindberg 1/1200 warships, an Essex-class carrier and a North Carolina-class battleship. They were part of the old Pyro "Tabletop Navy" series that I can remember building when I was in elementary school. (Price: $.50 each.) This new ad announces a King George V and a Dorsetshire in 1/1200. Putting two and two together, those almost have to be old Pyro "Tabletop Navy" molds too - which means they're American versions of old Eaglewall kits.

Eaglewall was a pretty extensive line of WWII warships issued in the very early fifties. (Maybe even earlier.) The range was quite extensive.Here's an interesting link: https://www.google.com/search?q=eaglewall+model+kits&biw=1324&bih=902&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5kMGqv-bKAhUJQyYKHS_1BYAQsAQIRg .

Pyro issued some (not all) of the Eaglewall kits in its "Tabletop Navy" series, and I remember that the King George V and Dorsetshire were among them. They were crude by modern standards, but what an exercise in nostalgia!

Unfortunately neither Round 2 nor Autoworld Models lists them yet on its website. But those are definitely on my list of kits I wouldn't mind buying.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, February 8, 2016 8:48 AM

Another Lindberg/round 2 release is a Navy oiler. I have long wanted to do one- anyone remember anything about the quality of that kit?

If I do build the BF I will do it as a commercial brig, unarmed.

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Posted by Marcus.K. on Monday, February 8, 2016 10:39 AM

Hey Gentlemen,

I was hearing in internet´s "corridor radio" that Revell intents to re-issue the beautiful kits for Cutty Sark (1/96) and Yacht America (1/54) this summer.

Found now several pages anouncing this. In this link I think there is a mistake - Yacht America is claimed as "USS America" .. but scale and the kit´s product number indicate: it is Yacht America.

http://www.cybermodeler.com/special/kit_naval_manuf.shtml

or here - a German page (you have to scroll down)

http://www.plastik-modellbau.org/blog/revell-neuheiten-2016/2016/

 

According to your experience : how reliable are anouncements like these ?

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Posted by jtilley on Monday, February 8, 2016 1:08 PM

I think those announcements are made in good faith - but all sorts of things can happen to slow down re-releases.

I do remember that old Lindberg tanker/oiler. But it's been many, many years. I recall it as a basic, simple kit with little detail - just about like the Q-ship kit. Turning it into a serious scale model would be quite a project, but given the paucity of twentieth-century merchant ship kits, I suspect anybody interested in such subjects would want to take a crack at it.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, February 8, 2016 4:40 PM

Marcus.K.

Hey Gentlemen,

I was hearing in internet´s "corridor radio" that Revell intents to re-issue the beautiful kits for Cutty Sark (1/96) and Yacht America (1/54) this summer.

Found now several pages anouncing this. In this link I think there is a mistake - Yacht America is claimed as "USS America" .. but scale and the kit´s product number indicate: it is Yacht America.

http://www.cybermodeler.com/special/kit_naval_manuf.shtml

or here - a German page (you have to scroll down)

http://www.plastik-modellbau.org/blog/revell-neuheiten-2016/2016/

 

According to your experience : how reliable are anouncements like these ?

 

That's reliable, I am sure.

 

But...that looks like the rebox of the yacht sold as a "Civil War Blockader".

http://www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=20195

The bowsprit gets a jib and a dolphin striker, there appear to be some swivel guns. In theory it's historically accurate- she did serve as such in the USN, albeit not to engage runners but to chase them and report them. According to one source, she had three 24 pd. Dahlgren guns, which seems a lot to me.

She also was a Confederate blockade runner, maybe named Memphis.

I don't know what's involved in backdating her to a racer, but the other kit is still pretty cheap on eBay. Maybe the original kit will be released too...

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Posted by tankerbuilder on Tuesday, February 16, 2016 11:46 AM

Ah Don ;

 It is sure nice to be proved right ! That is indeed the Aurora model . Now that said , I found out the mold was recast as the sunken ship for Aquariums too ! This was done by a Chinese company .

     See they did NOT destroy the original molds after all . I always enjoyed building that ship anyway !  T.B.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, February 16, 2016 1:54 PM

DURR

i have a bunch of atlantis roman and egyptian charoits  and solders in 172 scale they r about 20yr old i dont think they make them anymore

If we're talking about the same manufacturer, I think that was Atlantic.  I had their Greeks and Trojans.  The Ancients series included a model of the Colosseum, and I think a section of the gates of Troy.  The figures were in a similar soft plastic to that used by Airfix for its figures, and they were in a light color, like a very light tan.  They were nicely sculpted, though, with relatively crisp detail.  I was disappointed, though, that I couldn't use them with Airfix' Romans and Britons, which were in HO scale.

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Posted by the Baron on Tuesday, February 16, 2016 2:01 PM

jtilley

The ship announcement that grabbed my attention was in a little ad from AutoWorld Models (aka Round 2 Models). For a couple of years that company has been marketing a couple of Pyro/Lindberg 1/1200 warships, an Essex-class carrier and a North Carolina-class battleship. They were part of the old Pyro "Tabletop Navy" series that I can remember building when I was in elementary school. (Price: $.50 each.) This new ad announces a King George V and a Dorsetshire in 1/1200. Putting two and two together, those almost have to be old Pyro "Tabletop Navy" molds too - which means they're American versions of old Eaglewall kits.

Eaglewall was a pretty extensive line of WWII warships issued in the very early fifties. (Maybe even earlier.) The range was quite extensive.Here's an interesting link: https://www.google.com/search?q=eaglewall+model+kits&biw=1324&bih=902&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi5kMGqv-bKAhUJQyYKHS_1BYAQsAQIRg .

Pyro issued some (not all) of the Eaglewall kits in its "Tabletop Navy" series, and I remember that the King George V and Dorsetshire were among them. They were crude by modern standards, but what an exercise in nostalgia!

Unfortunately neither Round 2 nor Autoworld Models lists them yet on its website. But those are definitely on my list of kits I wouldn't mind buying.

 

 
I believe you're correct, those are re-issues of Pyro's licensed versions of the Eaglewall kits.  I look forward to getting those, because I've been on a 1/1200 kick lately, and I've put together a little collection of subjects, some old Eagelwall and Pyro issues, the Lindberg re-issues, some Casadio/ESCI/Revell kits.  I enjoyed building them, and some of them were trickier than today's modelers might think.  Masking the disruptive camo on the Vittorio Veneto, for example, was a fiddly job indeed.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 8:44 AM

I went to the autoworld site given in FSM, and could not find the new kits in the ad.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 10:24 AM

I've had the same experience - several times. There are, of course, plenty of legitimate reasons why a company's production may lag behind its ads (which, as I understand it, have to be sent to the magazines well in advance). But I confess I've got some reservations about that Round 2/Autoworld operation.

Guess we'll just have to stay tuned.

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Posted by the Baron on Wednesday, February 17, 2016 11:51 AM

I hit the Lindberg page from time to time:

http://round2models.com/models/lindberg

but it's not maintained too frequently.  It currently shows items up through 2015, with no page for this year.  Also, I've noticed that kits are available on the retail market, but don't show in the list, and vice versa.

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