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  • Member since
    March 2010
Commission advice
Posted by Bocks Suv on Friday, March 4, 2016 9:07 PM

Someone has reached out to my IPMS group looking for a proven builder to assemble his 1/350 Trumpeter Monmouth Type 23 Frigate. He has the kit and PE, but I'll need to learn more about how much other detail he expects in terms of weathering, rigging etc. What's a good price range for the basic finish and a more deluxe version?

Also any resources (URLs) that will help me with paint shading and rigging tips that prevents twisting the masts would be great. I've built planes and tanks but no modern naval craft.

Thx

 

  • Member since
    October 2005
Posted by CG Bob on Friday, March 4, 2016 10:18 PM

For a basic finish, charge about 3-5 times the average cost of the kit.  For a more deluxe finish, 10-12 times the kit cost.  The cost recommendations are based on the kit or finished prices from BlueJacket Shipcrafters.   

You might also want to do some sort of basic contract for the work.  Some items to consider in the contract are: description of the project; payment terms (deposit & balance due); delivery date; and delivery of work to customer.  Do a search for "artist contracts" or "model commission contracts".

 

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Friday, March 4, 2016 10:45 PM

$ 500 base, $ 1000 deluxe and be sure and quote both, which probably nets you $ 10/ hour if you are lucky.

When I estimate labor, which I sell for a living; I look at three things.

1) What it'll cost me to do it if I value my time on profit+compensation, no overhead.

That math is usually 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 so the no-overhead gives the customer a 33% break.

2) What the customer can stomach. Who can say, but that is the deal.

3) What another builder would charge. Actually that is the easiest, because if you are honest about 1 and 2 above, so would another good provider be.

As for resources, steelnavy and modelwarships have great WIP threads. look at stuff like "calling all RN modern ship fans", "calling all frigate fans", that kind of thing. We ship builders are a pretty plain spoken crew.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    March 2010
Posted by Bocks Suv on Saturday, March 5, 2016 8:57 AM

Great info and tips. I'll see what happens today and post pics if I get the build.

  • Member since
    June 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, March 8, 2016 8:38 AM

Hi;

   What I usually do is this . First , find out to what level they want the build .Builders Models , Normally seen in Shipyard offices and Shipping offices are Not super detailed in one way .They do not weather or superdetail with P.E. or figures.

 If they want a detailed , ( artistically ) model then that's higher in price . Figure labor for your first contract at the level G. Morrison suggests . Now I do get about that , well actually more , But they are " Museum " ( Presentation level ) models , Or actual models of working craft with super - super details . The Clients seem to like that .

  Mostly it's just a model . And many want it done to a photo or a drawing seen somewhere .Do NOT let anyone tell you it's easy . Are you used to working to a deadline ? It's the hardest thing to do when you are the Contractor , Laborer and Publicist , Oh ! and Secretary and Gofer !

     This is all said with a hearty , Good Luck !  Tanker - Builder

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, March 8, 2016 9:02 AM

Tanker - Builder

 Are you used to working to a deadline ? It's the hardest thing to do when you are the Contractor , Laborer and Publicist , Oh ! and Secretary and Gofer !

To which I would add that you are your own worst critic and will find yourself re-doing things the client would never even think about.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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