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Color photo USS Texas 1935 just interesting details

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Color photo USS Texas 1935 just interesting details
Posted by sharkbait on Friday, March 11, 2016 4:10 PM

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Posted by Hunter on Friday, March 11, 2016 5:10 PM

Cool photo....thank you for sharing

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Posted by GMorrison on Friday, March 11, 2016 6:57 PM

Love it!

The picture really shows how the deck stanchions and lines work. PE always leads to the impression that ships have big bar railings around their main decks, usually not so.

Water in the waterways, water everywhere.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, March 13, 2016 1:48 AM
Having walked those decks more than a time or two, they are a tad unique. The life line stanchions sit down in a gutter of sorts (if more of a rabbet). This surface is approximately the 2.25-2.5" thickness of the wood deck and the sleepers the deck is fastened to. The stanchions actually sit in sockets with a mix of bolts and pins holding them in place. Which juibes with contemporary photos showing the lifelines all cleared away when the main batteries are fired. Also, this makes the 36" long stanchions on Texas quite short vis-viz deck height--no reasonable person will spend much time leaning on them (a lubberly practice at best, anyway)--the brackish water of the Houston Ship CHannel not being very inviting even on a hot Texas summer day.
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Posted by freem on Monday, March 14, 2016 11:03 PM

Interesting the dark color of the deck fittings compared to the light grey of the gun barrels.

And Capn----ain't the smell worth it just to stand on those decks?!?!  And if you ever get the chance to get in the bowels of the ship-like in the engine room-that is the smell of history.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, March 14, 2016 11:52 PM

I wanted to wear a black belt in sea scouts, the scoutmaster convinced me not to.

 

 Are the lines stored on the turret for paravanes?

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Posted by bushman32 on Tuesday, March 15, 2016 8:33 PM
Paravanes used wire. The lines on the turret appear to be fiber lines

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Posted by ejhammer on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 8:39 AM

More than likley mooring lines. They look like the mooring lines we used aboard ESSEX in 1960.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, March 16, 2016 10:34 AM

DOH!

You are of course correct!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, March 17, 2016 11:52 PM

Some of that contrast could just be the way the color film was processed; some could be from it being an overcast day. I'm guessing that Texas is in the pre-war light grey over dark grey paint scheme. Which also neatly explains the unstained decks, too. As to smells, yes, being aboard has many of them. Sadly, that decking only dates to the 1990 era dry docking--before that the decks had been stripped away and concrete put in their place (for some inexplicatble reason). The interior spaces have a number of smells. Some of those are old paint; some are legacies of the Houston Ship Channel :)

But, all ships tend to have a smell of paint, of electricity, of the sea--even hints of steam and diesel and bunker oil.

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Posted by stikpusher on Friday, March 18, 2016 3:32 AM

Here are a few original color photos taken on board USS Idaho around 1940 or so for comparison

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, March 19, 2016 1:41 AM
Note how "blonde" Idaho's decks are versus Texas'--even where they've wetted the deck down in the last photo. Note the russet linoleum on the signal platform in that last photo, too.
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Posted by Silly_me on Monday, March 21, 2016 12:06 AM

CapnMac82
I'm guessing that Texas is in the pre-war light grey over dark grey paint scheme. Which also neatly explains the unstained decks, too.

It's late at night for me, and I just finally got around to ordering the Trumpeter Texas, so apologies, but were the decks stained for it's WWII service (how it is on 'museum' display now) or would they have been like displayed in the op picture?

And, if so, why wouldn't all ships have 'camo' deck stains?  It would seem that many, at least in the modeling world, sported naked unstained decks natuaral wood decks.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, March 27, 2016 1:01 AM

Silly_me
but were the decks stained for it's WWII service

Yes, USN painting instructions called for 20B deck stain for wooden decks, and a matching paint for metal decks.  (Only thing we cannot answer is whether the russet linoleum applied to working metal deck surfaces remaind, or was painted (linoleum "takes" paint, so, I suspect it was).

I suspect Royal Navy painted or stained their wooden decks in wartime--I just cannot point to a refereence that says so (unlike USN practice).

I've seen the lumber used for Texas' present wood deck, it has a distinct red hue; the stain the Texas Parks & Wildlife service uses replicates the USN color very well.

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Posted by stikpusher on Sunday, March 27, 2016 8:51 PM

CapnMac82
 

 

I've seen the lumber used for Texas' present wood deck, it has a distinct red hue; the stain the Texas Parks & Wildlife service uses replicates the USN color very well.

 

 

Is it anything like the mahogany stain on USS Enterprise here?

 

 

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, March 28, 2016 9:58 PM
Can'r 'splain that one--othe than E was always in need, and in a hurry, and not with time to complete things like painting. But, the directives were to stain wooden decks,
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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 3:54 PM

I believe the Navy in the 1930s had a color designated"mahogany flight deck stain, which was reserved for carriers. I'm not sure when those carriers switched to the blue stain.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 3:58 PM

Snyder and Short are pretty definite that this occured prior to our entry into the war, July to October 1941 at the latest. And yes, the previous brown color was also a stain.

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Posted by sharkbait on Wednesday, March 30, 2016 4:22 PM
If only this was in colour! http://youtu.be/lJQ3nawnDRc

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