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Converting the 1/96 Revell Cutty Sark into the Glory of the Seas Part 2

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Converting the 1/96 Revell Cutty Sark into the Glory of the Seas Part 2
Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, May 20, 2016 12:36 AM

Well..it looks like I got tangled in a photo monster mess...so I'm starting a new thread on the subject...Like many other logs, they can get long...and since I am entering a new phase of building...(Rigging) which can be a daunting task in of itself...I'll just go with it.

Thanks for all the support and encouragement thus far.....

Rob

 

 

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Posted by BigJim on Friday, May 20, 2016 8:28 AM

How did that photo mess happen? I'm not dissin' the photos, just have never seen a format/layout like that before and it seems to have taken over the thread!

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Posted by crackers on Friday, May 20, 2016 9:24 AM

I like the idea of kit bashing, as it offers the chance to break away the usual predictable ship model kits available to modelers.

Happy modeling     Crackers   Big Smile

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by kirill4 on Friday, May 20, 2016 9:46 AM

Hi Rob,

Nice idea, to make separate blog ... this, rigging of the model... by my opinion, most complicated part in plastic model building...

Will be great to watch, how You manage it... one small request, if possible... to give more information abt clipper rigging...why You decided to do like this or that way... at least with some critical points, such as secuiring of stays for example, or arangements of sails and spars running rigging... of couse if You wish to do that... I mean , to introduce information abt this american clipper rigging more or less same way, as Campbell did it in his book abt Tea Clipper...

All the best!!!

Kirill

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, May 20, 2016 10:16 PM

Big Jim...I have no idea...I was adding images from photobucket and bamm.......the entire album got downloaded and somehow covered the etire page...not permitting me access to reply to other posts..because I can't see through the images.  I see you posted to the thread..but I can;t see your posting to answer you.

I fixed the issue by creating another build log.  Balloons

Rob

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, May 20, 2016 10:23 PM

Thanks Anthony....You just can't find models of the ships I want to model....so I take what is available and Convert it into what I want....yes..there is loads of mods to do, but that is the fun part.  Then you have to scratch build the stuff not transferable.

This means I can build any clipper I want...using the basic building blocks of what is already available.  Thus far I am working on the Glory of the Seas...the Clipper Donald MCKay...the only clipper to be built on the West coast of the US...the Western Shore.  All finding the essence in the Revell 1/96 Cutty Sark hull halves.  The paramount build using this technique will be the MCKay creation the Great Republic...nearly twice the size as conventional clippers.

Thanks for your interest and comments.

Rob

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Posted by rwiederrich on Friday, May 20, 2016 10:36 PM

Kirill....First, I have to rig each and every yard...this means adding the jackstays...foot ropes and flemishhorses.  Plus the trucks and chain hoists.

I'll then add the required blocks after painting black.

Once all 16 yeards are complete...I'll add the backstays....I'll document all these procedures with pictures.

Here is an example of what I mean..this is an image of my Cutty Sark..however, on the Glory, there will be no studsail yards.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:50 AM

Here are some yards rigged with jackstays and footopes...but still needing blocks and painting.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Saturday, May 21, 2016 10:51 AM

Another.  These are all the yards for the formast.

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Posted by BigJim on Saturday, May 21, 2016 1:35 PM

rwiederrich
I fixed the issue by creating another build log.   Rob


Thank you!

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Posted by kirill4 on Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:39 AM

Hi Rob,

how did You fix jack stays and foot ropes to the yards?

jack stays have this small "pins"... soldering? or they are parts of plastic yard, if they are plastic?

foot ropes, which material did You use to fabricate them? andvhow they are secured to the yards in case of clipper rigging? ... I have idea how they should bevfixed tovthe yard on the vessel ofc16-17 centures, but on "modern" vessel...would like to know...

All the best !!!

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, May 22, 2016 7:09 PM

In the era of the jackstay, the footropes are fastened via stippups with an eye around the jackstay (the after jackstay when two are used).

Some debate on 16-17th century footropes, and I hope Prof (Emeritus now) T will  chime in as he is far better versed on this. 

Tre Trycare shows stirrups bent right round the yard, but does not show whether they siezed or slpiced that way (a rare ommission in his illustrations).

The Flemish horse--the footrope from the end o f the yard arm back to the the first outboard footrope stirrup starts appearing with studding sail yards or there abouts IIRC.  It's a fixture of yards by the clipper era.

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Posted by rwiederrich on Monday, May 23, 2016 8:37 AM

Hi Kirill...I think CapnMac summed it up well....but as to how I modeled it...I used thin black nylon thread(No fuzzies) for both the stirups and foot ropes, however the stirups are much smaller.  I used the same thread for the flemishhorses(as I did for the foot ropes)...which I drilled a small hole into the end of the yard, inserted the flemish and then secured to the yard.  In this scale I did not secure using the  actual knots used, but the location and identity remains accurate.

As far as the jackstays construction...these yards come with the loop pins cast into the yard...What I did was use extremely thin chromium orthodontic wire to form the wire jackstay.  I drilled small holes into the yard just outside the last cast loop ring and secured the jackstay wire into them and then (ever so jently) glued them to the tip of the cast loop rings..securing them. 

All in all it forms a convincing yackstay in this scale.  Once painted all sins are forgiven.

 

Rob

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Posted by kirill4 on Tuesday, May 24, 2016 3:16 PM

Rob,

CapnMac82, 

Thanks for information and description of the process... usefull info for me!!

Thanks!

All the best!

Kirill

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Posted by rwiederrich on Thursday, June 2, 2016 7:26 PM

It's my habbit to document in steps to aid the viewer if possible.

Rob

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