Revell 24 inch Cutty Sark

I don't own it any more, so I'm remembering.

The thing is small, at 1:220. I woud say the hull is more like 16".

How about the Airfix? I think it's 1:150.

Yeah...I thought Revell only made the 2 sizes.  I have the small one and the large one..and I don't remember any 24" versions from Revell.  Doesn't Monogram make a 24"?

Rob

Revell made three different scales of CS.  The middle scale was about 24" and was part of their "Simplified" series comsisting of USS Constitution, their woefully incorrect Thermopylae, CS, Mayflower, and an America's Cup racer.  Unfortunately, I do not recall any stated scale for this kit.  You can usually find them on eBay.

Bill

That's the kit I'm asking about.  It is Revell kit H-368,  listed by some sites as 1/146 scale.  But as I said before-- I don't trust Revell's box labels. 

Here's a link to an online image:

Right. I've seen that.  I guess I have the large and samll versions then.

Rob

My wife built that model 'way back in the 1970s.  It was a nice, easy kit that did look good, but I would have to guess that the scale is closer to 1/125.  Revell labeled box scales are always suspect until proven otherwise. For example, Revell USA states that the smaller model of the USS Constitution is in 1/196 scale, which seems reasonably accurate. But, Revell of Germany lists the exact same kit as being 1/144 scale.  I had the proprietor of my LHS open both boxes to compare them; he sent a letter of complaint to RoG.

Revell also popped out a neat 'Half-Hull" in 1/219 H802 Revell Ye Olde Ships Gallery Cutty Sark (1/2 Hull with Wall Display Frame).

They did the Spanish Galleon and Constitution. I had all three kits but sold them to a collector. You can find them on eBAy or others sites.

Mystery solved: The hull in this kit is about 18.5 inches long. I found a helpful ebay seller who measured it for me.

rcboater

That's the kit I'm asking about.  It is Revell kit H-368,  listed by some sites as 1/146 scale.  But as I said before-- I don't trust Revell's box labels. 

Here's a link to an online image:

 

I always thought the artwork on that particular painting was goofy, first IF the CS was healing ove that much, the men sould not be standing, as well as the bracing of the sailswould not be squared. However - maybe the painter caught her is transision ;)

Jake,

Also look at the positions of all of the sails in relation to the lean of the ship to starboard.  With the wind blowing from aft to forward, and with the sails set in this manner, there shouldn't be any severe healing either to port or starboard.

Good catch!

Bill

But the staysails are pretty well filled, indicating the wind is on quarter, rather than directly aft.  Still, that is a lot of heel for the apparent wind direction.  On the other hand, the stories about clipper masters really pressing sails in a gale are legion.

Well, now you've done it. You've given me an excuse to talk about my all-time nominee for "Most Ridiculous Box Art Ever."

Back in Olden Dayes there was a plastic kit company called UPC. It made no original molds; its kits were repops (sometimes slightly modified) of old kits from American, British, and Japanese manufacturers.

Sometime in the late sixties, UPC released a model labeled "HMS Prince." It was supposed to represent the English ship-of-the-line that was built in 1770. (Airfix made a beautiful model of that ship.)

One major source of information about that vessel is the beautiful Navy Board model of her in the Science Museum, in London: https://www.google.com/search?q=hms+prince+model&biw=1324&bih=902&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiI3Kuxw_bOAhXCYyYKHcznBi8Q_AUIBigB#imgrc=VWfjeAkQT9fx2M%3A . Like most Navy Board models of the period, it's unplanked below the lower wale.

When the gullible purchaser opened the box, it became obvious that all the parts except the hull halves and transom were copied from the Revell HMS Victory. The hull halves and transome, molded in a nauseous greenish-bronze colored plastic, sort of looked like the real ship, though the proportions obviously had been changed a bit to fit the Revell decks. From the waterline down, the hull was pre-painted red, and had a series of slightly recessed grooves where (more or less) the gaps between the frames on the Board Room model were. After considerable effort in Cyberspace I found a picture of the box contents: http://www.oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=18874 .

After a glance at the box contents, the purcaser might take a more careful look at the box art: http://oldmodelkits.com/index.php?detail=23360&newlist=1 .

I imagine the picture was painted by a Japanese artist working from a photo of the Board Navy Board model - and, I suspect, having virtually no knowledge of real Western ships. Note the bare yards in the raised positions, the studding sail booms (wrong for 1670, but right for 1805), and the gaff-and-boom spanker (with the boom at an impossible angle). And pay special attention to the bare, unplanked frames sticking out of the water.

I rest my case.

Thanks, John. I desperately needed a laugh!

Bill