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Oh , Subject of little interest .
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, October 3, 2016 8:35 AM

Hi ;

 Well , here I go again . Bemoaning the little , wide scaled collection of passenger vessels . Okay , where to start .There are many historic liners out there . Many available in paper .Why not plastic ?

    It would be very nice to be able to build a good model of the Andrea Doria and it's partner in disaster the Stockholm . How about a good quality Normandie ? Or Ile De France ? The S.S. United States - No really good ones yet , in any scale .

 Enter the Queens . Overshadowed by the Titanic . Why ? Because they didn't sink ? How about those that did ? Like , hmmm , let's see The Olympic ,The Brittanic , the Lusitania . In a scale that would be enjoyable to build .

    I have to give Revell marks for their " Victory at Sea " Kits of years ago . At least , even though pedestrian by today's standards they gave us a A.P.A. and A.K.A. years ago .You know in many theaters , if not for support , We would be speaking German .

   How about some of the old convoy dogs ? Many of them Coal burners well past their prime ? Did they get scrapped ? NO , they fought on , in their way until they just couldn't any more . Then in many cases the U.Boats got them . 

 So there's my diatribe on the lack of liners . I want a model of the Lusitania I can see , large enough for these old eyes , or an Andrea Doria . Or Brazil/Argentina, or a really good Canberra /Oriana . ad infinitum . I guess if I want many of them I'll have to become a full blown paper - modeler .     Tanker - Builder

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, October 3, 2016 8:58 AM

There is always scratch building.  In fact, in my experience, ships are the models most likely to be scratch built.  People were building scratch ship models long before there even was a hobby industry.  Magazines like Popular Science and Popular Mechanics would frequently publish plans for ship models.

There has long been a cottage industry of accessories for ship models- things like ventilators, guns, deck fittings, etc.  Fewer of those now, but an increasing number of PE stuff that makes scratch building easier.  Those ventilators are the worst to scratch build.  I know casting metal accessories is not that profitable these days, but it seems like resin would be an okay material for those.

I like to scratch Great Lakes bulk carriers (ore boats), but the newer ones all have those unloading booms which are really tedious to make.  Sure wish one of the PE mfgs would do such a boom.  The same boom would work on ninety plus percent of such ships.  A boom in 1:350 would sure be great!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by ejhammer on Monday, October 3, 2016 9:00 AM
How about the Matson liners used to transport the first men to Australia for fighting on New Guinea, like my dad.

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by warshipguy on Monday, October 3, 2016 9:55 AM

Have you considered building them in paper? These models, if done correctly and patiently, look great! And, they are quite durable and sturdy.  Sure, some can look cartoony, but these can be easily brought up to higher standards. Some of the companies, such as HMV, can be far better models than anything found in plastic.  And, you can rescale them to any scale you desire.  You should check these out.

Bill

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, October 4, 2016 2:47 PM

Good Point .

 Now fact .I did build a Monterey , Matsonia and Lurline using chopped up S.S.United States models . Twern't easy either . Now I guess I'll give my stashes to the vets and start over in paper .Seems the way to go Price wise anyways . T.B.

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Posted by ejhammer on Tuesday, October 4, 2016 4:53 PM
Hey TB, Got any pics of the Lurline? That's the one dad shipped over on. EJ

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by dirkpitt77 on Tuesday, October 4, 2016 8:58 PM

A few years ago I used to be pretty big into the submarine simulation games on the computer. I remember Silent Hunter IV, in particular, had some great examples of various cargo and tanker ships that I always thought would be fun to build up. Some of the smaller Japanese cargo ships had quite a bit of character to them. Sadly, my scratchbuilding skills consist mostly of considering the idea for ten minutes, then discarding it. LOL

 

--Chris

    "Some say the alien didn't die in the crash.  It survived and drank whiskey and played poker with the locals 'til the Texas Rangers caught wind of it and shot it dead."

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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, October 5, 2016 6:20 AM

TB,

I just posted a request on www.papermodelers.com for any information about paper kits of these ships.

Bill

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, October 6, 2016 9:13 AM

E.J. Hammer ;

  Somewhere in my shop I have a scrap-book of my time on her . The only thing is I don't think I got any whole ship pictures . They kept me pretty busy .  T.B.

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