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1/350 Vietnam Era Essex Class Iconic Tilly crane

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1/350 Vietnam Era Essex Class Iconic Tilly crane
Posted by COChef on Sunday, November 13, 2016 2:11 AM

Hello Everybody,
I'm looking for drawings of the Tilly crane used on board Essex class and the larger carries from the 60's to the 80's .
I've found drawings of the CCVC but none of the older Tilly. I'm trying to make a photo etch set for this crane to go with the 1/350 3D printed Tilly as it does not come with the boom or pully system also maybe the 1/500 for the old Revell Essex class kit 
Thank You,Any help would be greatly appreciated 

Oh by the way in my search I found this website that has every kind of equipment used by the US Navy and for some part the USAF
No pics but line drawings and descriptions
http://navyaviation.tpub.com/14014/css/ ... nt-215.htm

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  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Sunday, November 13, 2016 5:22 AM

Hello!

Nice link, but the document is too new. I wish sombody posted a similar document but from the sixties. I'd love to scratchbuild some 1/72 carrier deck equipment, but the references are very hard to come by. Recently I have finished an MD-1A tractor/huffer and that was really hard to research. Then again how many of them were ever built? One hundred? Maybe some more, but that makes them instant classics, doesn't it? And the crash cranes were even more rare.

Anyhow, good luck with your project and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, November 13, 2016 9:11 PM

Out of curiosity I Google Image searched "Tilley Crane" which was interesting.  Was mostly the modern three-axle crane.  But, one of the images did link to a LeTourneau MB 1A, which was the "Tilley" in the 50s (unless I'm mistaken).

There were a few more images, but nothing i nthe way of plans, sad to say.

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Posted by COChef on Sunday, November 13, 2016 10:50 PM

Hello Cap,

I did the same thing and came up empty too I have a ton of pics but no plans or measurements anywhere.

Did OshKosh make it or some other company? If I can get the manufacturer I might get lucky and get the drawings or at least measurements from them.


Pawel I think if you go through all the pages you'll find some of the older deck vehicles and attachments for them in there I think,to be honest I was just so excited to find drawing and info on deck equipment ,I only went through about 10 pgs of it.

I also found this website on the OshKosh MB-5 Crash Truck that was on every one of the big carriers and a couple of the Essex Class carriers as well.
The web page alos has a link on how to build a model of it in 1/24-25 scale which I'm also currently working on along with a JP4 USN fuel truck in the same scale
http://www.tsbongard.com/mb-series.html 

 

Thanks you guy's  

David

COChef

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  • From: West Virginia, USA
Posted by mfsob on Monday, November 14, 2016 8:10 AM

Sometimes in our little ship scales, 1/350 and especially 1/700, we just have to, well, eyeball things and do the best we can. And adopt more of a "close enough is good enough in this size" mindset. Which is hard to do, because most of us are (usually overly) dedicated to Getting It Right.

I've had to adopt this mindset while scratchbuilding a number of itty-bitty details for the auxiliaries and cargo ships that I favor, and realize that I am building for me. The 99% who look at your models are going to say, Wow, that's damn fine work, and not know the difference between what is precisely correct and what just looks good. The 1% who do know the difference will accept the explanation that you did your due dilligence and this is the best you could come up with.

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Posted by COChef on Tuesday, November 15, 2016 12:19 AM

mfsob,
Eye balling it is usually how I go but I'm going to need accurate drawings with dimensions of the boom so the phot etch set is as accurate as possible as it will be for sale with the 3D printed Tilly.

A friend of mine produces the 3D printed Marathon Le Tourneau NS-60 (Tilly) on Shapeways minus the boom already and has searched for a supplier for the boom and pulley system for a long time I found a photo etch supplier that is willing to produce it in 1/350 and if it goes well possibly in 1/500 (for the Revell Kits) .
He can not do the boom on the Tilly on a 3D printer due to how thin the boom is so fragile that it would break easly so he and I turned to finding a photo etch supplier for it 
COChef

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, November 24, 2016 1:14 PM

COChief ;

    Funny That !

 You would think someone would've done it in P.E. The " Tilley " was indeed unique .  T.B.

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Thursday, November 24, 2016 10:12 PM

Well, I asked around in my various circles (including military vehicle restoration).  It looks like le Tourneau was the builder.  Oskosh has only recently become a vendor.

Ok, LeTourneau Technologies was sold to Joy Global in 2012.  So, that moniker is not likely to be seen anymore on USN flight deck gear.

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Friday, November 25, 2016 8:43 AM

No drawings, but a slide taken by me 1962 aboard ESSEX flight deck.

 

 

 

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