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1/350 Dragon USS Chevalier DD-805 Finished

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1/350 Dragon USS Chevalier DD-805 Finished
Posted by fermis on Friday, December 16, 2016 3:40 AM

 

I've got several ships/subs...so I made the bases for them out of oak...

 

 

I started with drilling out the hull...

 

 

I'll epoxy to nuts in the hull, so I can run the bolts in at the end. The brass pieces are compression fittings.

 

 

This stuff is tiny!

The 3 big guns were easy enough, just 5 parts(also drilled out the guns)

The guns got a bit fiddly, with 8 pieces each...then those 2 mounts of some sort are 2 PE pieces plus the dinky plastic. Then there's the other 8 small guns with 9 pieces each! 7 hours in, and I aint even half way through step 1!

 

 

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, December 16, 2016 6:58 AM

Hey, compression fittings!  That is a new one on me.  Worth a try- they look quite attractive!

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by ejhammer on Friday, December 16, 2016 7:50 AM
Nicely done.

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, December 16, 2016 9:52 AM

Hey Fermis ;

 Compression Fittings -Who'da thunk ? The box cover looks like D.D.846 U.S.S. Ozbourn , when I first reported aboard in 1959. She was named for a Marine who jumped on a Grenade to protect his buddies !

     The parts are fiddly aren't they ? Fun is , I am doing that ship as the " Ozzie " after FRAM . Same scale too !    T.B.

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Posted by fermis on Friday, December 16, 2016 12:33 PM

Thanks guys!

 

Tanker - Builder

Hey Fermis ;

 Compression Fittings -Who'da thunk ? 

I know I didn't!

When I did my first boat, a few years back, I went in to my local hardware store, just looking for "something". I went to my "go to" guy, explained what I was trying to do and I wanted brass. We just kinda ended up at compression fittings, and I like it!

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Posted by goldhammer on Friday, December 16, 2016 1:16 PM

I ended up with a couple of 1/8 NPT brass couplers for my KH build.  Hex all the way, top to bottom.

Have the Dragon Benson class in the stash, so will be checking back with this one.  Lookin real nice .

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Posted by fermis on Friday, December 16, 2016 2:15 PM

goldhammer

I ended up with a couple of 1/8 NPT brass couplers for my KH build.  Hex all the way, top to bottom.

Have the Dragon Benson class in the stash, so will be checking back with this one.  Lookin real nice .

 

I also have the Benson...and the Buchanan...so, there'll be more on the way!

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Posted by fermis on Friday, December 16, 2016 2:20 PM

Revenant

Cool  

So how is the quality of the Dragon mouldings?  And in your next set of pics can you add a coin (or pfenning) for scale comparison???

 

It's pretty amazing, really. Look at the tiny guns (8 of em, around the penny)...each gun its a separate piece, as are the mags. It pretty much boggles my mind, that one company can do very fine moldings/castings that are in scale at 1/350...but them you can get clunky, overly thick parts for a 1/32 scale kit (**cough**Trumpeter**cough***).

To say the least, I'm impressed.

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Posted by Revenant on Friday, December 16, 2016 5:20 PM

So what are "compression fittings" normally used for???

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Posted by fermis on Friday, December 16, 2016 5:25 PM

Revenant

So what are "compression fittings" normally used for???

 

Used in air lines, when tightened/compressed, they "expand" to create a seal. As I understood the explanation I got.

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Posted by 1943Mike on Friday, December 16, 2016 5:48 PM

Your PE work is outstanding! (I wish I were as meticulous in putting mine together Embarrassed).

My WIP for the 1/350 cruiser I'm building will rest on the kit provided plastic stand but when I get around to one of my 1/350 battleships (USS New York BB-34 or the Admiral Graf Spee) I'll attempt using a hardwood, stained base with brass pedestals since your and many other posters' builds look so good with that kind of display.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Revenant on Saturday, December 17, 2016 1:54 PM

Sad

An update would be kinda nice...just sayin...

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, December 17, 2016 3:06 PM

Revenant

Sad

An update would be kinda nice...just sayin...

 

I know, right?!!!

Came in to my airport yesterday at 6pm....plowed snow until 7am this morning...crashed out in the pilots lounge. Got up at noon and back out cleanin the runway off. More snow on the way...I'm on duty until 8 tonight.

Looks like an hour or two of down time....guess what I brought with me?!!!!

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Posted by Revenant on Saturday, December 17, 2016 4:23 PM

fermis

 

 
Revenant

Sad

An update would be kinda nice...just sayin...

 

 

 

I know, right?!!!

Came in to my airport yesterday at 6pm....plowed snow until 7am this morning...crashed out in the pilots lounge. Got up at noon and back out cleanin the runway off. More snow on the way...I'm on duty until 8 tonight.

Looks like an hour or two of down time....guess what I brought with me?!!!!

 

Not that we don't believe you but some snow pics would be kinda nice and all...just sayin'...

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:26 AM

Ah Fermis ;

   Compression fittings are extensively used in Hydraulic , Hvac , and high pressure water systems as well as air systems  . Plus they are also used a lot in D.I.Y. plumbing products like Ice makers etc. T.B.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 5:28 AM

Hi Again .

   Another good source of through hole brass fittings are Lamp Finials .There are some that are two piece .  T.B.

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Posted by Revenant on Tuesday, December 20, 2016 11:57 PM

Whistling

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Posted by Revenant on Tuesday, December 27, 2016 4:40 PM

HmmWhat happened to the 'sleeping' smiley?

...zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz...

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, December 31, 2016 12:15 PM

The bench has been cleared...all other projects finished up...war room cleaned...diving back in!

 

Step one is done! Woohoo!!!

 

I have a PE set of radars, rails and some other bits from Toms Modelworks. It's kind of a "generic" set for US Detroyers. I was able to use parts of that for the MK4 radar, but there was nothing for the little radar (don't know what its technical name is), so I used some sheet plastic and finely stretched sprue to scratch that one...the solid kit part looked dumb.

 

 

 

I sectioned off some slots, to keep things straight.

 

 

Also did some work on the big parts.

Main deck is glued to upper hull, as well as the first level of structures.

Nuts are epoxied in place...

 

 

The main deck, upper hull, and lower hull parts do not line up at all. With all three lined up, from stern to mid-deck, the bow sections were going in three different directions...with the main deck being most central. Upper hull veered off to starboard, while the lower hull veered off to port. Like my nautical terms???!!! I'm so out of my element here! Anyway, I got the deck and upper hull to cooperate, although they fought the whole way. This is what I'm still up against between the upper/lower hull sections...

 

 

With a lot of tape though, things will be just fine...

 

 

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Posted by Revenant on Saturday, December 31, 2016 7:46 PM

Stick out tongueWow---those radars are a BIG improvement w/ the scratching and etch thrown at them...this thing is shaping up nicely...

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Posted by 1943Mike on Sunday, January 01, 2017 12:36 AM

Fermis,

I'm in complete sympathy with you about the hull sections not lining up. My USS San Francisco WIP doesn't show it but I had some minor problems with getting the top and bottom hull halves to join correctly. With ship kits that happens.

I'm very impressed with your PE work and you are so organized!

I'm following with interest.

Mike

"Le temps est un grand maître, mais malheureusement, il tue tous ses élèves."

Hector Berlioz

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Posted by Revenant on Sunday, January 01, 2017 10:40 AM

Pirate Hope that Jap sub and her mini-me don't put a torp into the side of the hull!

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Posted by fermis on Monday, January 02, 2017 4:42 PM

I'll save all the expletives, and just show what I have gotten done in the last 12 hours of bench time.

 

 

Between these two masts, I believe there are more pieces than the average aircraft kit.

 

 

One scratched radar wasn't enough, I had to go and do it again. (square one was already shown), kit parts are below the penny.

 

 

Some other bits...

 

 

Exhaust stacks, again...

 

 

 

I have to say....If you do these types of ships/kits on a regular basis...for fun...there is something about you that is "off"!!!!

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Posted by goldhammer on Monday, January 02, 2017 4:52 PM

Very nicely done with the PE.  Coming along rather well.  I pretty much botched my first attempt at 1/350 etch, and gave up on the 1/144.  Can't wait to get to the 1/72 Gato PE....LOL

I resemble that comment.......but to most folks we are more than a little "off"

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Posted by ejhammer on Monday, January 02, 2017 5:14 PM

Very nice PE work. I struggle with it.

EJ

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Revenant on Monday, January 02, 2017 5:16 PM

fermis

I'll save all the expletives, and just show what I have gotten done in the last 12 hours of bench time.

 

 

Between these two masts, I believe there are more pieces than the average aircraft kit.

 

 

One scratched radar wasn't enough, I had to go and do it again. (square one was already shown), kit parts are below the penny.

 

 

Some other bits...

 

 

Exhaust stacks, again...

 

 

 

I have to say....If you do these types of ships/kits on a regular basis...for fun...there is something about you that is "off"!!!!

 

Whistling  If I'm not mistaken these kits come w some nicely moulded 1/350th scale sailors...

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  • From: Wyoming Michigan
Posted by ejhammer on Monday, January 02, 2017 5:31 PM

There's 50 of them here in 1/350. They make them in 1/700 also. 3d printer.

 

Completed - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Revenant on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 12:25 AM

ejhammer

There's 50 of them here in 1/350. They make them in 1/700 also. 3d printer.

 

 

Indifferent

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Posted by Revenant on Tuesday, January 03, 2017 11:39 PM

fermis

 

 

I bet building those stacks was exhausting...

 

...see whatEmbarrassed I did there???

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Posted by fermis on Saturday, January 07, 2017 10:47 AM

Revenant

 

 
fermis

 

 

 

 

I bet building those stacks was exhausting...

 

 

...see whatEmbarrassed I did there???

 

Propeller...yes...yes I do see!!!

 

Thanks guys!

Question for you ship guys...

I'm ready to start painting. This is the call out...

 The hull red...non issue, nor is the upper grey.

The "Navy Blue" sides and "Deck Blue" is where my issue is. The refs I'm finding...real deal and builds, is cornfusing me a bit...

Very blue...

More grey(with hint of blue-ness...plus the tops of the big guns)

(This is "710" not "805"...just a color ref)

 

I guess, what I need to know is, is there much difference between the darker sides and the deck? In those builds above, I'm not picking up any difference between the sides and deck.

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