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How should stern sculptures be made ?

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  • Member since
    April 2009
  • From: Draper, Utah
Posted by bushman32 on Monday, January 9, 2017 4:51 PM

I believe on Model Ship World there are some tutorials on carving. One thing someone taught me a long time was draw the carvings a few times till they look good. He told me- if you can draw, you can carve it. It seemed to help me a lot.

  Ron W.

Ron Wilkinson

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  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, January 6, 2017 9:36 AM

Some parts must indeed be carved or modeled, but the flatter work, such as the plant vine kind of thing can sometimes be done with a fine paintbrush and thicker paint. 

As someone said above, practice is a big thing.  Start practicing carving, maybe on bigger stock, before attempting sculpturing for a small scale model.  Some folks start with carving a larger scale figure head or two, or three....  Once you get experience with some larger projects, start with smaller things.  In very small scale, even the carvings with more relief can be done with fine paintbrush.  Multiple coats can build up relief.

If you do woodcarving, do not use balsa.  While it is soft, the grain is large and inhomogenous.  Basswood is the ideal carving wood.

One thing for building up stern areas- I sometimes do them over a sheet of transparent celluloid or other clear plastic, full width of stern.  That ties everything together and also provides the glazing.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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  • From: Jerome, Idaho, U.S.A.
Posted by crackers on Friday, January 6, 2017 9:25 AM

Thanks guys ! Appreciate all the help received.

Happy modeling  Crackers      Big Smile

Anthony V. Santos

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, January 5, 2017 9:06 PM

Seriously...no.

It's hard to imagine transferring carvings from one base to another.

Some of the other modeling sites suggest what I do.

Either get glitter glue from the craft store, or buy a little bottle of micro beads and mix it with Elmers (PVA).

Tease the detail on the transom with a toothpick.

Well, Doh!, practice first. But you'll get acceptable results.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, January 5, 2017 12:05 PM

Crackers ;

 The Baron pretty well summed it up . I have made made molds of Sculpey for resin -shallow molds and regular molding medium for larger stuff . I also have made molds with other stuff and pushed and kneaded the Sculpey into .This works well and it's paintable and sandable afterwards .

    I have cast many an eagle wing sets for many projects that needed wings - ad infinitum .  T.B.

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  • From: Bethlehem PA
Posted by the Baron on Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:12 AM

You could certainly sculpt them yourself, and if you start, practice and keep at it, you may find that you can get pretty good at it.

You mentioned baking modeling clay.  If you want to bake the piece, ie, use heat to cure it, may I suggest that you try Sculpey?  It's a sculpting medium that is intended to be baked to cure it.  A lot of folks use it.

You could also try 2-part epoxy putties made for sculpting, such as Aves A&B, or Miliput.  They come as a putty and a catalyst.  You mix equal parts till blended, which takes a couple minutes of kneading with your fingers, and then sculpt your piece.  They will cure with time, to a rock-hard finish.

I have all three of those products, and use them, depending on my mood, and the subject.  For example, if I'm working on a figure and I want to sculpt some additional detail, I won't use Sculpey, since it has to be baked.

There are other products, too, available depending on where you're located.  Green Stuff is another putty, and there are some available in Germany, but their brand names escape me.

It is a good idea to wear rubber gloves, though, with any of these putties.  Some folks do show an allergic reaction to them, over time.

Hope that helps, best regards,

Brad

The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.

 

 

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  • From: providence ,r.i.
Posted by templar1099 on Thursday, January 5, 2017 11:05 AM

3D printer?

"le plaisir delicieux et toujours nouveau d'une occupation inutile"

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  • From: Jerome, Idaho, U.S.A.
How should stern sculptures be made ?
Posted by crackers on Thursday, January 5, 2017 10:08 AM

I have the plans and instructions for the 74 gun British warship, HMS ALFRED, by the late Harold M. Hahn. It is a future project I would love to construct, but the intricate design and carvings on the stern give me second thoughts. I do not have the talent and skill to carve all the sculptures. I have thought of using modeling clay and baking each piece in our kitchen oven, and once they are hardened, then glue the individual pieces in place. Has any person a suggestion on how this is feasible, or is there an alternative method ?

Inquiring minds want to know.   Happy modeling     Crackers Embarrassed

Anthony V. Santos

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