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1/200 kits question
Posted by uspsjuan on Monday, July 10, 2017 7:27 AM

I was watching a documentury on the Yamato last night and it occured to me that our friends over at Trumpter have brought us 1/200 scale kits of the most kitted battleships , but have left out the Yamato. Can anyone shed some light on this. Just curious really. It is one of the nicest looking battleships in my opinion. Might it be in the works for them? Sure would be a nice addition next to the Mighty Mo. 

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Posted by Nino on Monday, July 10, 2017 12:02 PM

I have not heard of any 1/200 Yamato Rumors. There is a site that lists new product news related to model ships at   http://www.modelshipwrights.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=index&catid=&page=1

However...  Fujimi has announced the July 2017 release of kit FUJ02033, a Yamato 18" gun turret. In 1/200 scale!

Nichimo made a 1/200 Yamato.  The kit was listed at over 51 inches.  The deck comes in 5 pieces. I have never seen the parts close-up.  It seems to depict Yamato Pre-Leyte Gulf. There are always some being sold on Ebay. They are Hundreds of dollars. 

   

     Nino

Edit:  There is a 1/250 Yamato by MicroAce (Arii).  It sells for a lot less than Nichimo 1/200.

 

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Posted by potchip on Tuesday, July 11, 2017 6:12 PM

My reliable source indicates a newly tooled Yamato will be announced this year. Kitted by Wave (same Japanese company that released 1/200 Mikasa) and you guessed, it, moulded by Trumpeter (just like Mikasa which was re-released later under Hobbyboss label). So the rumors going the rounds are true. 

 

Aside for the novelty factor of the 'biggest' etc etc, they are over-represented in model kits already. Now Yamato being a good-looking ship, Okay, let's say we agree to disagree. Zip it! 

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Posted by uspsjuan on Wednesday, July 12, 2017 7:19 AM
No worries POTCHIP, We are all of different likes and tastes. In your opinion , how does Wave kits stack up? tried to build a Hobby Boss kit and got utterly frustrated with it . It still sits on the back of my hobby desk.
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Posted by potchip on Wednesday, July 12, 2017 9:18 AM

Hobby Boss = Trumpeter which will tool the new Yamato so would be typical Trumpeter quality (in the current age).

The 1/200 Mikasa is what you'd expect for kits in this day and age so there's nothing to worry about and without a doubt any new Yamato in 1/200 will be better than the decades old Nichimo offering, and a lot more expensive! 

Well it's pointless discussing the overall quality of a brand, each brand has its gems and lemons. Hobby Boss kits are decent, unless you are talking about ancient ripoffs like the 1/325 Arizona or 1/350 Pola, well they were produced when Trumpeter started out. Trumpeter being one of the biggest model kit manufactuer in this day and age means there's little to worry about in terms of fit/mould quality. As for accuracy, you better pray the Japs (Wave) did their homework.

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, July 12, 2017 3:45 PM

Hmmm;

   I don't know the scale . I have one sitting on a shelf in the garage . She's complete down to the P.E. BUT , she had to be converted from German R.C. To Futaba before she was any use to me . Gorgeous ship by the way . T.B.

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Posted by uspsjuan on Thursday, July 13, 2017 7:22 AM
It was the Arizona ! I leave it sitting on my hobby desk in hopes that one day I'll try to finish it. lol Time to start hiding money from the wife for the Yamato ! Lmao
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Posted by uspsjuan on Monday, July 17, 2017 7:34 AM
Is it the sheer size that that turns modelers away from 1/200 scale or the cost? With all the super detailers out there , I figured that this scale would give them ample opportunity to go wild. That's why I would like to see a modern carrier in this scale. Aircraft that aren't so tiny that it hurts my old eyes , maybe light the hanger deck , or whatever tickles my fancy. Just a thought. Tell me what you think. And go! lol
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Posted by Don Stauffer on Monday, July 17, 2017 8:30 AM

uspsjuan
Is it the sheer size that that turns modelers away from 1/200 scale or the cost? With all the super detailers out there , I figured that this scale would give them ample opportunity to go wild. That's why I would like to see a modern carrier in this scale. Aircraft that aren't so tiny that it hurts my old eyes , maybe light the hanger deck , or whatever tickles my fancy. Just a thought. Tell me what you think. And go! lol
 

Cost!

When I scratchbuild ships, I do go to a larger scale.  Many of my Great Lakes ships are 1:192 (almost same as 1:200) or 1:96.  I find scratchbuilding ships quite a cost savings, so I have Great Lakes models between three and four foot long- no problem.

 

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by uspsjuan on Tuesday, July 18, 2017 7:19 AM
Yes , cost is a factor as I do have to save up for my purchases. For me the cost is worth not having to strain so much to work with tiny parts in say 1/700 scale. I Like 1/350 also but for a minimal increase in price , I'll jump to 1/200.
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Posted by uspsjuan on Wednesday, July 26, 2017 7:36 AM
no one else to weigh in?
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Posted by chango on Sunday, July 30, 2017 8:17 PM

uspsjuan
no one else to weigh in?
 

High quality 1/200 battleship builds are very popular and tend to attract lots of attention but there are a couple of problems which I think scare away newcomers once the reality of tackling one sets in.

First off, OOTB Trumpy 1/200 battleships tend to be lacking in accuracy in certain areas and detail in general... they really feel like upsized 1/350 kits and the end result is often too "toylike" for many "serious builders" (whatever that means! Wink ). These kits do need extra work, research and detail to really shine, which usually means expensive aftermarket additions (not to mention extra paint, glue, putty, ect. for such large models and the not so cheap kits themselves).

Second, you'd think the bigger scale would make 'em easier to put together but once you throw in a detail set or three a 1/200 battleship easily becomes a nightmarishly huge long-term project with just as many complications and "fiddly bits" as several smaller scale superdetail projects put together. Build times regularly run into the hundreds of hours and it takes a high level of proficiency, patience and dedication to actually pull off a great build.

Many, many big Trumpy ship kits and a plethora of aftermarket goodies for them are sold but not so many are actually finished, and only a small minority of those are completed as the museum-worthy masterpieces which tempted so many to buy into one in the first place. 

In other words, it's a tough niche to keep playing in for very long. Whistling

 

 

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Posted by uspsjuan on Tuesday, August 01, 2017 7:40 AM
Well stated change, Yes they can be long projects if you elect to super detail the crap out of it. Myself.... I like to add a bit of extras to my builds without going to extremes. you can easily double the cost of your build with aftermarket PE . I'm not trying to build museum quality stuff here, just something that is pleasing to the eye and myself. Got to keep it fun!
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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, August 01, 2017 9:14 AM

chango

 

 

 

Many, many big Trumpy ship kits and a plethora of aftermarket goodies for them are sold but not so many are actually finished, and only a small minority of those are completed as the museum-worthy masterpieces which tempted so many to buy into one in the first place. 

 


 I remember a hobby shop owner saying, several years ago how bad the situation was with those wooden models with planked frames.  He said the great majority of those kits he sold were never completed.  Just about any model ship is a bigger project than most other genres.  I have a number of modeling friends who will not tackle one just because of the time and effort, and that is even for 1:700 and 1:350.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by uspsjuan on Friday, November 10, 2017 10:33 PM
But the question still remains , who would like to see a modern carrier ( i.e.; Regan , Bush ) in 1/200 ?
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Posted by littletimmy on Friday, November 10, 2017 10:42 PM

 I wouldnt mind an Escourt Carrier ( USS Bouge ) in 1/200 scale. But there aren't that many airplane kit's in that scale soooooo.... How about a carrier in 1/144 ?

                      Dont worry about the thumbprint... paint it rust and call it "Battle damage" !

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Posted by Nino on Saturday, November 11, 2017 12:10 PM

[quote user="littletimmy"]

 I wouldnt mind an Escourt Carrier ( USS Bouge ) in 1/200 scale. But there aren't that many airplane kit's in that scale soooooo.... How about a carrier in 1/144 ?

 [quote user= "uspsjuan"]
 
But the question still remains , who would like to see a modern carrier (i.e.; Regan, Bush) in 1/200 ?
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     Wow,  1/200!  Just think, that's 7 & 3/4 feet of space for a 1/144 CVN-65.  The Enterprise could act as a Server on your dining room table. Rubber band powered catapults could serve(shoot)  plain bread slices and the elevators can pretend to be the dumb waiters.
     A partial hull/deck combo at maybe 2 feet long would look rather exciting with a few 1/144 aircraft. There are a slew of Pictures of CV’s “comin’ at ya". A poster on the wall with a partial Carl Vinson coming out of it would be a conversation piece beyond comprehension.
 
   My wife is not keen on posters and we have enough serving trays.
 
     However, an Escort Carrier, as Tim pointed out, would be only 3.45 feet. That sounds do-able. It would be a model for a Musuem, Collector, or more importantly, a Veteran. 
 
 
Today is 11/11 so a special Thanks to All you Folks in the Forum who Serve(d)!
 
 
     Nino.

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