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Building Revell's 1/72 Black Pearl

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    September, 2017
Building Revell's 1/72 Black Pearl
Posted by Captain Salazar on Saturday, September 02, 2017 7:08 PM

My son (he's 17) wanted to build this (he's a huge Pirates of the Caribbean fan),  so we're building this together. We don't want to get away from the basics, just building and painting this up as presented. My initial question is concerning probably the biggest visual part of the model - the black paint.

I'm thinking of going with enamels as we're just using brushes, and the Humbrol paint I used on another ship looked really good. Is Humbrol about the best enamel paint to use? I don't know much about other enamels, though I've read that some aren't very good. The kit of course lists Revell's colors. How is their paint line?

The main paint color is "Anthracite Black," and according to the conversion charts, that's a combination of Humbrol's 085 Coal Black and 049 Matt Varnish. I'm assuming you paint over the Coal Black with the Matt Varnish and not mix it. I've read about some issues with the Matt Varnish on other forums turning the color into a milky or frosty look. One person mentioned that it's the pumice (talcum powder) that is in matt paints. In paints the color masks the whiteness, but not in the Varnish. Does anyone have any opinion on what to use?

  • Member since
    June, 2014
  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, September 07, 2017 9:07 AM

Hi ;

 I don't think there's talc in modern paints .That said , however I think Testors Model Master Anthracite is what will work better for you . It is almost a true flat but not quite .

 Anthracite is a metallic Black/Grey . The actual color is very close to the actual subject , which is anthracite coal . It doesn't get sooty black but more of a metallic dark Black/Grey .You may want to stick with Humbrol's Soot or Boot Black . T.B.

  • Member since
    September, 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 07, 2017 10:23 AM

Humbrol is very good paint. Their enamels are among the best.

But it's a big model and it'll be tedious, and costly.

Conversion charts are just best guess, not equal=equal.

Testors is still selling very good paint in all of their lines.

I'd consider a spray can approach. With a little practice and artistic license (which is wholly appropriate here), you can get some nice "ghostly" effects with lighter gray over coats.

And stick to dark grays, not true black.

I think a clear coat is a good idea. Otherwise this thing will just eat light.

You might look at some threads where folks describe painting P-61 Black Widows.

Polly S used to sell some good acrylic grays like "Steam Power Black", "Grimy Black" and another one I can't remember. Maybe "Rubber".

Testors has a good enamel called "NATO Black".

  • Member since
    September, 2017
Posted by Captain Salazar on Thursday, September 07, 2017 7:07 PM

Thank you very much guys for the advice. I saw that Model Master II has an Anthracitgrau RAL7016 but they are discontinuing the Model Master II line. They do have a Schwarzgrau Flat on their website in the Luftwaffe and Panzer line. I can't tell if that's regular or II. But thank you for the advice on Model Masters and using a dark gray, along with a clear coat. I'll check the P-61 Black Widow paintings.

  • Member since
    November, 2009
  • From: Twin Cities of Minnesota
Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, September 08, 2017 8:48 AM

I use Testors enamels almost exclusively.  Only downside is slow drying time for their gloss enamels. If you can find the colors you want in flats, then drying time is not nearly as much of a problem.  Lots of colors in their lines, available at both Michaels and Hobby Lobby as well as most hobby shops.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

  • Member since
    September, 2017
Posted by Captain Salazar on Friday, September 08, 2017 2:47 PM

Thanks Don. Hobby Lobby carries the Model Master paints so I'm going to see what they have.

  • Member since
    September, 2013
Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, September 08, 2017 4:54 PM

Don,

I am going to use Model Master enamels during the summer months from now on.  Living in San Antonio it has been a stuggle to keep the acrylic paint flowing.  Last week I used a bottle of Model Master enamel that was in a color I didn't have in acrylic and it spray just fine without any of the hassle of drying and clogging the tip.  I am more than willing to wait a day to two for it to dry just to remove this hassle.  

  • Member since
    July, 2013
Posted by steve5 on Friday, September 08, 2017 4:58 PM

if your having trouble with acrylic's drying too quick , try a couple of drop's of tamiya paint retarder in it , work's wonder's . if you do , only use a couple of drop's too , it's all you need .

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