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1/700 Ship Models
Posted by jeffriesr on Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:07 PM

I find that since I have grown older (retirement), it is almost impossible to find the dexterity in my fingers to handle the small parts associated with 1/700 ship models.  I use tweezers, small forceps, and opti-magnifiers, but it is still frustrating. The parts still get away from me.

I guess I'll stick to 1/72, 1/48, and 1/35 aircraft and armored vehicles. At least if a part from a military vehicle gets lost, I can claim battle damage.

1/350 and larger ship models cost too much.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, November 8, 2017 5:46 PM

 Jeff,

I have become interested in larger scale models of smaller ships.

Like you, I can't build at 1/700 to my satisfaction. And 1/350 are basically warships, which I have a limited interest in.

But with the suggestion of the late Dr. Tilley, I've dipped into things like fishing schooners. I'm currently building the 1/60 yacht America, and the1/144  Snowberry corvette. I'm working on drawings for a 76 foot purse seiner, which at 1/60 scale is about 15 inches long.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by PFJN on Wednesday, November 8, 2017 7:49 PM

Hi,

Along the lines of what GMorrison says above, I too have started looking into larger scale models of smaller ships.  Currently I have;

1/72 scale Flower class corvette

1/125 scale Minesweeper 

1/130 scale USS Defiance (Gunboat) 

1/144 scale Type 143 Fast Attack Craft

1/200 scale Le Suriot Research Vessel

1/285 scale USCG Ice Breaker

1/288 scale USS Landing Ship Dock

1/300 scale RV Meteor Research Vessel

All waiting to be built.  Although I haven't started any of these kits yet, in looking them over, the larger sized pieces and components really appeal to me and look like they have lots of potential either straight out of the box, or as kits you can modify and detail as much as you wish Smile

1st Group BuildSP

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Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, November 9, 2017 6:55 AM

I, too, have shifted to larger models of smaller ships.  However, I am into warships of all eras, so much of my building lately has focused on plank-on-bulkhead and solid hull sailing ships.  Yes, I am aware that there are accuracy problems with many of these kits, but correcting these is part of the fun.  I am also into the 1/72 U-Boats and submarines.  I might try that 1/48 U-Boat, but I haven't yet decided.  Also, I like the 1/144 to 1/180 sailing ships by Revell, Airfix, and some by Heller (as long as they are of historic ships and are not  fantasies).

Bill

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Posted by scottrc on Thursday, November 9, 2017 8:32 AM

The older I get, the harder it seems to build in 1/700, but I do not have the space to display or store anything larger.  At present, I am on a roll with wanting to build in 1/700.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Thursday, November 9, 2017 8:54 AM

I have become a believer in the "use it or loose it" theory.  I have run out of display space, and that makes me want to build smaller scale stuff.  I have decided to build more 1:700 ships and 1:72 aircraft.  I have been noticing some loss of manual dexterity, but finding I can make up for it by doing more of the fine detail work. I believe this is helping.

Vision problems are easier to fix- good optical aids and brighter lighting help.  But the dexterity is a tougher nut to crack.  But I remember something that happened a number of years ago.  I was trying to learn to play piano, and found that I got along fine as long as I was just using my right hand.  I thought I would never be able to do much with my left hand.  But then a friend pointed out that I am a touch typist, and use both hands for that!  He was right.  Okay, it takes a lot of practice to build and maintain fine motor skills.  So as I am fumbling with those tweezers, I think I just need to do more of that kind of work, not less.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by jeffriesr on Thursday, November 9, 2017 9:24 AM
Doing more and using fingers more make a lot of sense. If you don't use it, you lose it principle. Thanks Don.
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Posted by jeffriesr on Thursday, November 9, 2017 9:26 AM
Space is a problem in my office, and my wife won't give me more space(imagine that). I guess I'm sticking to 1/700. I'll just have to build more to keep my skills sharp. Thanks Scott.
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Posted by Hokey on Thursday, November 9, 2017 10:20 AM

Don Stauffer

I have become a believer in the "use it or loose it" theory.  I have run out of display space, and that makes me want to build smaller scale stuff.  I have decided to build more 1:700 ships and 1:72 aircraft.  I have been noticing some loss of manual dexterity, but finding I can make up for it by doing more of the fine detail work. I believe this is helping.

Vision problems are easier to fix- good optical aids and brighter lighting help.  But the dexterity is a tougher nut to crack.  But I remember something that happened a number of years ago.  I was trying to learn to play piano, and found that I got along fine as long as I was just using my right hand.  I thought I would never be able to do much with my left hand.  But then a friend pointed out that I am a touch typist, and use both hands for that!  He was right.  Okay, it takes a lot of practice to build and maintain fine motor skills.  So as I am fumbling with those tweezers, I think I just need to do more of that kind of work, not less.

 

After fumbling with tiny phot etch parts yesterday I'm going out of my mind! 67 yeards old and all thumbs!

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Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, November 9, 2017 1:11 PM

All the repitition and practice won't help those of us suffering from arthritis in the fingers and knuckles.  Believe me, I have tried.  There are some things that my fingers will no longer do. That is one of the reasons I have shifted to larger models.  Oh, well . . .

Bill

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Posted by Surface_Line on Friday, November 10, 2017 3:04 AM

Since I'm just a young 64 with bifocals and still in the early stages of the return of Dupuytren's Contracture (look it up) in the hands, I am still delighted to work with 1/700 ships.

For the small parts, I have a special pair of very soft-action tweezers to minimize the cross-room launches, Optivisor to see up close and three desk lamps to maximize the light.

:-)

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, November 10, 2017 9:03 AM

warshipguy

All the repitition and practice won't help those of us suffering from arthritis in the fingers and knuckles.  Believe me, I have tried.  There are some things that my fingers will no longer do. That is one of the reasons I have shifted to larger models.  Oh, well . . .

Bill

 

I do have osteoarthritis in the fingers- maybe not as bad as yours. I do find, if I take a trip or for some reason stop modeling for a week or two, then getting back at it is hard.  Winter is harder too.  I found I need to have a heater in my basement shop and keep the temp up.  I can still rig planes and ships with 5 mil monofilament though I practice my expletives pronounciation when I do. 

Cataract removal sure helped my eyesight, though with thread that size I still need to insert appropriate background behind model to get enough contrast to see it.

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Monday, November 27, 2017 8:39 AM

Hi ;

 Now you know why I scratch build Tankers !

 At 1/48 and 1/87 they can be large , large enough to put scads of detail in there . All my ships  , wether kits or scratch have fully detailed wheel- houses , unless it's 1/350 or 1/700 . In those fuggedaboud it .

 The La Suroit is an excellent model as is a lot of larger odd scale ships . Lindberg's for instance or some of Revell's . I think one of the most pleasurable builds was the Revell , U.S.S. Buchanon .( The Four-Stacker marketed mostly as the " Campbelltown " )

 The Italeri and some Heller kits give you that option as well . It's all in what you want .Size , well It can be a problem . I had surgery on my hands in the 90s for some kind tendon problem . They liked to become painful claws at times , By themselves !

 I don't know what it is called , but at middle seventies it's back . Not with a vengeance yet , so I use models to beat it ! I feel for all . So you adjust and keep going . Hey , that's the Marine way anyway , Right ? Well , that's my take .

 Whatever your problem , the branch of service you were in , it showed you how to overcome obstacles and reach your goal . Not something they taught in school . So those of you who served know what I mean .Those who didn't well , Life's a B&*$% of a teacher , right ?

 So what should we do , Quit ? Heck No ! I ain'ta Gonna Quit , till I can't hold a knife or brush anymore !

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Posted by ejhammer on Monday, November 27, 2017 12:58 PM
AMEN!

Completed - 1/525 Round Two Lindberg repop of T2A tanker done as USS MATTAPONI, USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa Dec 1942, USS Yorktown 1/700 Trumpeter 1943. In The Yards - USS ESSEX 1/700 Hasegawa 1945, USS ESSEX 1/700 Dragon 1944, USS ESSEX 1/700 Trumpeter 1945, USS ESSEX 1/540 Revell (vintage) 1962, USS ESSEX 1/350 Trumpeter 1942, USS ESSEX LHD-2 as commissioned, converted from USS Wasp kit Gallery Models. Plus 35 other plastic and wood ship kits.

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Posted by Brian Miller on Monday, November 27, 2017 4:48 PM
I only build 1/700. I like to display my ships together and see the size differences. I'm still young enough to not need any sort of magnifying device, but in the future I'm sure I'll need something.
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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Tuesday, November 28, 2017 8:43 AM

Hi Brian ;

 Yeah , I have avoided 1/700 for the same reason . Now that I have a full sized magnifier ( The size of a sheet of office paper ) I can do these little guys .They seem interesting . Thing is I already have some , but , I put them aside after having problems with those teensy detail parts . Not now though !

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Posted by Mikeym_us on Saturday, December 2, 2017 8:36 PM

GMorrison

 Jeff,

I have become interested in larger scale models of smaller ships.

Like you, I can't build at 1/700 to my satisfaction. And 1/350 are basically warships, which I have a limited interest in.

But with the suggestion of the late Dr. Tilley, I've dipped into things like fishing schooners. I'm currently building the 1/60 yacht America, and the1/144  Snowberry corvette. I'm working on drawings for a 76 foot purse seiner, which at 1/60 scale is about 15 inches long.

 

 

 

When did john die G? I used to remember all of his anecdotes when he would post in any of the threads in the ship section.   I still do 1/700 scale as that is a scale you can get creative with in regards to painting and fitting parts.

On the workbench: Dragon 1/350 scale Ticonderoga class USS BunkerHill 1/720 scale Italeri USS Harry S. Truman 1/72 scale Encore Yak-6

The 71st Tactical Fighter Squadron the only Squadron to get an Air to Air kill and an Air to Ground kill in the same week with only a F-15   http://photobucket.com/albums/v332/Mikeym_us/

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Posted by goldhammer on Sunday, December 3, 2017 1:54 PM

The Professor went to fair winds and following seas a couple of month ago.  He is sure missed for his wisdom and skills here.

There was a thread going on his passing at the time.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, December 3, 2017 2:00 PM

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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