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USS England WIP
Posted by Radial9 on Sunday, November 12, 2017 3:06 PM
OK… the “deck is cleared”, sprue and hull washed and hanging on the pegboard, photoetch laid out, tools and work area cleaned, instructions at the ready, Flickr Pro account opened and working.
 
It looks obscenely clean, doesn’t it? Will work on that.
 
I ordered some Vallejo Dark Blue Gray and Blue Gray Pale. Should be here in a day or two.
 
Read through England and GMM instruction pages slowly over the last few nights. Will continue to do so. A plan is starting to come into focus.
 
My thinking is initially fill in the five cable roll deck indents, sand/finish. Glue deck to top hull and that assembly to bottom hull. Fill gaps, sand and finish. Mask raised bulkhead attachment risers/sections, paint deck. Mask entire deck, paint top and bottom of hull and black line. Build and paint prop shaft and props, affix to hull. Place hull on stand and secure. Set it all aside and start on the superstructure pieces to include PE.
 
Sound like a sound plan?
 
Thanks!

 Bob

 

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Thursday, November 16, 2017 7:26 AM

Warning , Warning  , Modeler Bob ! ! 

 That is a peculiar picture . Are you sure you are a model builder ? That area looks awful clean to me ! LOL.LOL. Whatever you do Bob , don't paint her Sea Blue ! 

 I did that on mine and all the detail almost disappeared ! Oh , you could see it alright .With a flashlight and a magnifier ! I will never paint a 1/350 ship that small , with Flat Sea Blue again .

 I have had folks almost put an elbow on her , on top of my case because they didn't see her !  talk about some tense moments ! Good Luck on the build , and remember there's some teensy parts in P.E. that go on top of the Bridge deckhouse .     T.B.

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Thursday, November 16, 2017 9:31 AM

Tanker - Builder

"... Whatever you do Bob , don't paint her Sea Blue ! ...

  I have had folks almost put an elbow on her , on top of my case because they didn't see her !  ..."     T.B.

 

T.B. 

     It sounds like your Camo scheme worked perfectly.  You should be proud.  I have a pre-painted USS Callaghan, DD-759 hull in 5-N and 20-B. I absently put in on top of a dark walnut Desk and spent 10 minutes searching my living room for it. In the future, I suspect all those tips about doing Navy Blue a bit lighter for scale effect are well founded.  That goes fo deck blue too. I think 20-B is equally too dark especially for 1/700.

     Bob, 

     Your workbench, It's so clean and organized. I look at mine now and cringe...

     You seem to have a really good plan for this build.  I know many of the members here have recommended the USS England as a First build but I do not recall anyone finally building it.  Thank you for this Posting.  I’m going to Watch and Enjoy. 

     I hope this new Discussion Topic may get a few others interested in starting on a ship Kit. The Trumpeter 1/350 USS England seems to be a good choice for a 1st ship model.

     Nino.

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Friday, November 17, 2017 7:29 AM

Nino ;

 She is a good simple , clean molded produst . Very few if any fit issues and the results are very satisfying  . The Gun tubs and such , are very finely molded . as are any bulwarks . 

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Posted by Radial9 on Monday, December 18, 2017 7:57 AM

Have had some time to work on my England.

My thinking is to finish masking the deck as it looks now. I will then paint the Kgun and depth charge tracks the final structure color on the PE sprue prior to assembly, Vallejo Drk Ghost Gray, then place them on the deck along with superstructure. Some dark blue deck may show through but I can think of no other way to go.

Once the deck is masked I will prime the entire ship, top and bottom. Then black for the boot line, mask boot line, hull colors above and below boot line, then start placing superstructure items and PE after they have received final colors too.

What type of black for boot line, flat, semi, or gloss?

Comments suggetions welcomed.

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  • From: Philadelphia Pa
Posted by Nino on Monday, January 01, 2018 10:49 AM

Radial9

     Flat Black seems to be the choice for USN.  Different for DKM (a specific Grey) and IJN has no boot "line".

    The pictures, (pic1, pic2), do not work.  can you re-post? If having trouble, let the forum know.  You will get assistance.

     Happy New Year Bob.

               Nino.

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Posted by Radial9 on Monday, January 01, 2018 11:49 AM

Thank you Nino. I hope I got it now. Made some progress on the deck masking. Thanks for the flat black info!

Bob

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, January 01, 2018 1:47 PM

Ocean Blue probably a safer model color than Navy blue on dark furniture.

Or a person could simply go dark side and only have ikea blonde and white furniture . . .

Let us not forget that the non-skid on the decks will be a panzer grey sort of color.

Up close, USN boot topping is a NATO black color, but that might be too "grey" on a model.

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  • From: Cincinnati, Ohio
Posted by ridleusmc on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 12:15 PM

I like how it's looking.  That's an innovative use of popsickle sticks.  I will keep that in mind.  I often do my painting with toothpicks, but the popsickle sticks look sturdier.  

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Wednesday, January 03, 2018 1:23 PM

Aha !

Gotta say . Looking Good !  Keep on keeping on !

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Posted by Radial9 on Saturday, January 13, 2018 7:58 AM

I have had a bit of free time to move the build along. I spent a few hours this early am with a pot of coffee and my Surface going over the current builds here. The talent and dedication is inspiring. I’m hopeful as I continue here I can tap the knowledge and advice of the more experienced builders. The purpose of this England build is to hopefully provide a bit more experience working with PE. That is the intent anyway. I’ll have to fess up that I ended up ordering a 2nd sheet of PE from Gold Medal as my last 20mm gun shoulder pinged across the room into the void. No less than a dozen pieces eaten by the carpet monster. I also invested in a set of quality tweezers. Learning is a word that I’ll use loosely. It’s coming, but damn is it frustrating.

 

 

 

 

 

The deck airbrushed and then hand masked. The black boot line was over airbrushed on, some fine blue Tamiya narrow flexible masking tape laid down the seam line and both sides masked and airbrushed. I painted the red hull bottom, masked it and sprayed the top side and deck with Vallejo Dark Ghost Gray, which will be the vertical surface color. Unmasking reveals there will be considerable touch up, both on the deck and the hull. Expected. I’m sure those pots of coffee will help with the detail painting that will be needed as I move from bow to stern. I’m thinking getting a “touch up” deck color that will blend into the existing deck as I touch up is going to be an issue. The deck may end up with a complete coat before it’s done.

 
I’m turning my attention to the structures now. My plan (all advice here welcomed!) is to start at the bow and work toward the stern one level at a time. I will affix PE where I can (excluding railings) on each subassembly. That will include vertical ladders. That first level sub assembly will go on to the deck. Then to the next levels. My thinking is to use white glue. I may try CA and see which I can work with best.
I’m still undecided as how to approach painting and affixing PE to the structures. They are primed now as can be seen in the pics. One approach is to place as much PE on as I can, airbrush the final color on and then use CA to set it on the deck. Another approach says to clean the entire PE sheet well with a solvent, AB the whole PE sheet, then bend and CA or white glue in place. Yet another opinion, from a fellow model club member who does unbelievable ship work, is to bend each piece, paint, then place. Guess I will have to try each method and see which one works best for me. But… advice is MOST welcomed.
 
The mast in another issue, but I’ll wait a while before going there. Think It might give the HF/DF antenna a go too. Much more fine PE work to do too. Fidlly bits I believe they are called.
 
I must keep in mind the intent here which is becoming familiar with PE. I also need to remind myself this build is going on the shelf of my 8 year old grandsons room along with the other builds, not in front of some modeling judge. Like many endeavors, I’m hopeful the quality will come with the experience. Threw in a pic of my transformed bench. I tied flies for many years in Alaska where I spent 35 years. I’m in south Florida now. It’s warmer but they stack people up down here worse than cordwood.
 
Cheers,

 Bob

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, January 13, 2018 8:26 AM

Bob;

 Your ship is looking good . As far as the cordwood remark . That's why I live in Texas .

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