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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 11:36 AM

Hi All,

 

Hey, back in 1992, after THE HUNT FOR RED OCTOBER came out ... my brother bought and built the Revell kit of the USS DALLAS (C'mon Big D, Fly!) ... But it was never painted or decaled.  I still have the model, intact.  Kyle Lord, who has recently built the Merit G-5, the Revell 1:144 FLOWER Class Corvette plus a few airplanes for me, is going to paint it for me.

 

Does anyone here remember if that was a 1:700 kit (I seem to remember that scale being on the box)?  And, if so, do any of you have those decals, or 1:700 decals for a 688 LOS ANGELES Class fast attack sub that you're not going to use that I can buy off ya?

 

Thanks,

 

Tim

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  • From: Sonora Desert
Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 11:45 AM

The Revell Red October sub kits, both the Dallas and the Red October, were 1/400.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 11:51 AM

Hi Tim,

 

The kit is 1/400. You don't need decals. The boat would not normally display her hull number.

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:13 PM

I'd be interested to hear what Bill M. thinks, I would paint the boat overall flat black.

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:41 PM

Thank you, sir.

The decals I was referring to are the depth markings and the deck markings around the escape hatch.

I do know that the 688s had anti-fouling red under the waterline, I just need to know if the bow dome was all black, or did it have a waterline?  And - did the rudders/stabilizers have a waterline, or were they all black?

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 1:56 PM

I’ve seen photos of the bow domes either way- all black or with red lower. 

 

 

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:07 PM

And I have yet to come across any photos of a Los Angeles Class with those vertical “stabilizers”

 

 

 

 

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Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 2:43 PM

Greetings!

I served onboard Dallas. Her paint scheme was simple. She had the red lower hull that extended from the bow to the stern.  The upper half was flat black.  Unfortunately, flat black does not look right on 1/350 models; I usually go with a mixture of 2 parts German Gray to 1 part flat black.  About those horizontal stabilizers on the stern planes . . . some 688s had them while others did not.  They were not on Dallas, at least when I served onboard in the late 1980s.  Nor were they on the other two '88s on which I served, the USS Albuquerque and USS Pasadena.

Bill

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 3:31 PM
Bill, Sir, thank you, and thank you for your service as well! Those stabilizers, would you have an idea of how they were painted? Tim
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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:08 PM

I have seen them painted red or black depending on the boat.  Remember, though, Dallas did not have them.  And, thank you!

Bill

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Posted by GMorrison on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:13 PM

I seem to remember that at some point the SSN's lost their red bottoms?

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by stikpusher on Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:15 PM

GMorrison

I seem to remember that at some point the SSN's lost their red bottoms?

 

I think that is more recent. Perhaps in the late 90’s?

 

F is for FIRE, That burns down the whole town!

U is for URANIUM... BOMBS!

N is for NO SURVIVORS...

       - Plankton

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  • From: Groton, CT
Posted by warshipguy on Thursday, January 18, 2018 7:02 AM

It's strange. I am on the Groton Naval Submarine Base frequently, and I see submarines painted either in an all black scheme or with the red lower hull.  One other point to mention is that the camouflage scheme of a medium gray base with very dark gray mottling on the masts and antennae has now become a smoky dark gray monotone.  I retired in August 1996 from the USS Maine (SSBN 741)Blue when the old paint scheme was in use.  It seems that the color schemes began changing in the very late 1990s-2000s, almost in sync with that horrible blue camouflage uniform.

Bill

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Posted by PTConsultingNHR on Friday, January 19, 2018 5:30 PM
WOW Gentlemen, Thank you all for your input ... and WARSHIPGUY has been most helpful. I will have Kyle use his input as well as what my brother's former student, Admiral James Waters has to tells me. He was Squadron CO of SUBRON 4.
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