Hello.
Great satisfied that it pleases you, anyway, I would make a complete comment here when I would have finished him, because I do not arrive has to do that of warpaints and having done it here, but it is promised, I would put quite here.

CapnMac , I arrive has to make me understand of you, I had learnt has the school English, there are rests and then there is a site REVERSO which helps me .hi hi hi .

phil .

Allow me to render that a "live" link:  http://warpaints.net/viewtopic.php?f=170&t=10116

Nice post on the ATC (H).  Worth noting that the helo-deck ATC were one in ten.  The bulk of ATC ought have an "A" frame canvas cover to shelter the passengers from sun and rain.

Kind of a shame that the kit does not render the tops of the trurrets as a separate item, many period photos show them stowed along the side rather than over the gun mounts.

I hope you do not mind English, as mon francais c'est ***.

Well, oops, it seems Kalmbach's censorbot recognizes a common French word for excrement.  Sorry about that.

Hi,

Thanks for the link.  That looks fascinating, and Google translate does a reasonable enough job at translating for me to understand most of the text

PF

Hello gentlemen.
I make this construction now, saddened, it is in French, I hope that it will please you.

http://warpaints.net/viewtopic.php?f=170&t=10116

 phil

CapnMac82

Over at ModleShipWorld, the NRG apparently has new, spacious digs, so, they are building a 1/6scale PBR.

Over at ModleShipWorld, the NRG apparently has new, spacious digs, so, they are building a 1/6scale PBR.

Hmm, wonder if the 3d print shops will make a set of the "Diesel Only" caps for the 1/35 PBR? 

i had a feeling it was the small ports at the rear, thanks fo the help!  waning to make sure i get my detailing right

Fuel dock (sorry, had to say it )

Deck plate, aft:

For reference:

There's usually a funnel stowed under one of the engine hatches with the small end poked into a coffee can.

Does anyone know where the PBR's were fueled at?

Hi;

 I am not really sure if that was for you or not . I have a problem with names , seems there's too many Garys ! Lol. My name is Gary too !

Nino

 

 

TankerEasy

The whole story of the brown water Navy is pretty neat, its too bad it isnt talked about more.  It seems to be a part of the Vietnam war that isnt metioned much, I only know of one documentery about it.

 

 

 

 

  I came across a web site that should be of interest to you.  

They do mention LCM-6 .  No LCM-8.

 

http://www.warboats.org/stonerbwn/The%20Brown%20Water%20Navy%20in%20Vietnam_Part%201.htm

 

    Nino

 

Thanks Nino!  glad this post has generated some good discussion and knowledge sharing!

Tanker - Builder

gary ;

In my experience ( remember I was there ) , most of the early ones were based on LCM-6 Boats . Now maybe the late ones that I didn't see were 8s but I kinda don't think so .Remember there are folks that see what they have been talking about only to find they are incorrect !

TB,

I'm not sure if it was me you were addressing (Gary), but I was not confused about the LCM-6 and LCM-8.  This schematic clearly says LCM-6:

http://archive.hnsa.org/doc/boatcat/cat-0108.htm

I was interested in the CCB as my brother was radio operator on one coming up on 50 years ago.  He was stationed out of Dong Tam, though he said they were rarely at the base.  He was wounded in February, 1969 while out on a mission, and honorably discharged later that year due to his injuries.  He just turned 70 this year, and I was thinking about building a CCB model for him if there was one available, but apparently scratch-building might be the only way for me to do it.  Thanks!

Gary

Hi;

 Having owned 1:1 modified versions of thos exact vessels I can say , Building one is easier than it looks . I do think one of the R.C. Model companies did offer a hull . Can't remember which though  . Simple lines and fairly straight , forward bottom .  T.B.

Hello!

GMorrison

It would seem to me that if drawings could be had, it would not be hard to build this.

I even have those drawings... Mr. Carrico used to sell them on a CD. But now his business is gone...

Have a nice day

Paweł

TankerEasy

The whole story of the brown water Navy is pretty neat, its too bad it isnt talked about more.  It seems to be a part of the Vietnam war that isnt metioned much, I only know of one documentery about it.

 

  I came across a web site that should be of interest to you.  

They do mention LCM-6 .  No LCM-8.

http://www.warboats.org/stonerbwn/The%20Brown%20Water%20Navy%20in%20Vietnam_Part%201.htm

    Nino

PFJN

 

 

Tanker - Builder

....Remember there are folks that see what they have been talking about only to find they are incorrect ! 

 

 

 

Hi, that reminds me of a quote a freind of mine was fond of.  I think it was something along the lines of "If I didn't believe it, I wouldn't have seen it".

 

It would seem to me that if drawings could be had, it would not be hard to build this.

Tanker - Builder

....Remember there are folks that see what they have been talking about only to find they are incorrect ! 

Hi, that reminds me of a quote a freind of mine was fond of.  I think it was something along the lines of "If I didn't believe it, I wouldn't have seen it".

gary ;

In my experience ( remember I was there ) , most of the early ones were based on LCM-6 Boats . Now maybe the late ones that I didn't see were 8s but I kinda don't think so .Remember there are folks that see what they have been talking about only to find they are incorrect !

Hi;

 You can find the Diamond Plate at Hobby Lobby , it's in the model railroad sccenery section .

Ill try and get pics uploaded tongiht of the PBR Mk II im working on.  Does anyone know of the best place to pick up a marine stowage set that would look go well with the boat?

GAF

It's the checkered plates

The diamond tread plates are only on the upper surfaces.  Generally.

The hull "compartments" (and the pilothouse roof, if memory serves) are smooth plate.

The "no loose waepons" thing is complicated in VN.  You might be stationary in a position that could be "in contact" with little warning.  But, in the rainy season, stuff gets covered up often.  Which is why MGs are so often under covers

Ed - I have to respectfully diagree. I have even seen scans of the original modification drawings for the Tango boat and they all say time and time again the base is an LCM-6. Then again, a modelling article is not really a historical information. Can you point to some other source that says a Tango boat is based on an LCM-8?

Thanks in advance and have a nice day

Paweł

Tread plate is made in styrene by either Plastruct or Evergreen. There is also brass tread plate out there. And textured decals by Archer for application to smooth surfaces.

CapnMac82

 In 1/72, PE would be just fine.  At least at a guess.

The bar armor was 3/4 x 3/4 x 1/8 angle stock (20 x 20 x 3mm) with 5/8" (16mm) reinforcing bar, which was stood off 12" or 18" (30 or 45cm) off the hull.

Now, at 1/35, you are right at where the "upset" (the raised texture) on the bar would "show"--this is what was frustrating in my ancient attempts.

That 20mm angle iron is about 0.6mm at 1/35; at 1/72 only 0.2mm.

5/8" rebar?  That's good to know.

It's the checkered plates that might also be difficult to replicate.  Does anybody make a sheet of that?

Gary

GMorrison

My "peeve", being now a CRC (Certified Rivet Counter), is models that have an array of weapons "laying around".

Bill CRC

 

Good man! Every soldier knows you don’t leave your weapon lying around out of arms reach. That is drilled into you head early on in training. Unattended weapons tend to grow legs and disappear. 

Even a pintle mounted crew served weapon will have one guy sitting around guarding it.

Cleaning the model room and I came across the February 1992 issue of 'Scale Modeler' magazine (formerly known as  The Worlds Largest Modeling Magazine).  Volume 27, Number 2.  Now out of business -- check the library

In it is an article by Duane Pfister describing his build of a 1:48 scale ATC(H), scratchbuilt using sheet styrene and styrene stock.  Also included is a set of dimensioned 1:48 scale plans (2-view).    Yes, it is based on an LCM-8 hull, not an LCM-6

More modern materials and techniques may make the process less painful.  Although carving the hull out of Ren-shape or MDF is still akin to my previous recommendation of starting with a block and carving away anything which doesn't look like an ATC or Tango boat

CapnMac82

 Now, at 1/35, you are right at where the "upset" (the raised texture) on the bar would "show"--this is what was frustrating in my ancient attempts.

 

My "peeve", being now a CRC (Certified Rivet Counter), is models that have an array of weapons "laying around".

Bill CRC

Oh My ;

 I took my old boat after a flip off a shelf and converted it to a Newfoundland mail Boat . the thing looked like a modifird Lobsterman . I had sliding side windows , mail - sorting rack ( with mail in it  )and a lower cabin nap and relief area .

 I used figures from Monogram's Patton M-48 A-1 heavily modified into Sea -Going civilians . It lived through seven moves and two different Live -Aboard boats and then died after settling in Texas . 

 I still have the hull somewhere . it's a great model for modifying and so is the Swift Boat  . Swift Style boats have been used for years as small and large crew transport boats to the closer offshore Oil Rigs . Also as Tanker Ship Crew taxis .

 The Monogram kits were an open door for any Mod you wanted to do to them .