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Ships , Colors and why they are like they are .

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, September 15, 2018 6:46 PM

Recall ships doing it in the South Anchorage a lot.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, September 15, 2018 5:01 PM

Tanker - Builder
commence blowing tubes

You could judge the relationship between the XO and the Head Snipe on how/when tubes were blown.

If the relationship was poor/bad, the Boss Snipe would call up to the Bridge to announce "Blowing tubes!" about 90 seconds before that happened.  And would be invariably with the wind over the bow.  Which covers the ship from funnel to stern in sticky soot on nearly every surface.  Which meant the deck paes got an extra special work out cleaning all those surfaces (the sparkies got extra work in for all the antennae and the like aft of the stack(s), too).

In a good relationship, the Snipe ould have a Department conference, and everyone would figure out the best course/wind profile and thus, time, for this exercise.  Soot goes over the side off downwind, not so much stuff on decks & gear, all things run smoothly.

Mind, I remember a day when a sub-ideal relationship finally bubbled over--the ship blew tubes.  At Dockside.  With a seabreeze coming in.  Ship, shore, everyone nearby, TypeCon (and offcie), everywhere.

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Posted by stikpusher on Saturday, September 15, 2018 4:50 PM

GMorrison

Thats a nice essay. My hat is off to anyone who could tell Kure from Sasebo.

I wonder if camouflage patterns went away when radar range finding came into more general use.

 

Part of the reason was that. The various camo measures were based upon the most likely threat. The “disruptive” & “dazzle” schemes were more effective against optical rangefinders and other such devices such as submarine periscopes. The overall dark schemes were more effective against aircraft. There is one of the new LCS ships in a camo pattern. And many USN small craft that work inshore have green camo patterns similar to what was worn on PT boats in WWII.

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, September 15, 2018 2:19 PM

Thats a nice essay. My hat is off to anyone who could tell Kure from Sasebo.

I wonder if camouflage patterns went away when radar range finding came into more general use.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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  • From: New Braunfels , Texas
Ships , Colors and why they are like they are .
Posted by Tanker - Builder on Saturday, September 15, 2018 2:09 PM

Hmmmm;

 Ships . Not very colorful now are they ? Navy ships especially since 1936 . Grey or Sea Blue or combinations thereof . The reason I made the comment about " the Great White Fleet is this .White hulls , Buff upper works ( or Mustard if you prefer , Spicy maybe ? ). They looked Formal and Formidable .

 The Ships of the modern navies are grey for a reason . Visibility . They were and are harder to see at a distance . And the engineers and such got their " E " for not making smoke . The less smoke the more efficient they were .

 Lotsa smoke either coal or the very early oil fired ships ( there is a learning curve there . Our captain would have ponies if we showed smoke at any time except when blowing tubes . ( to blow tubes ) Proceed to commence blowing tubes by injecting steam into same while turning the nozzles .This will free soot buildup in the unptakes .

 It was usually done once a watch on request to , and approval  of the bridge and officer of the deck .

 That was near impossible to do with coal . So white became grey for two reasons . Now the Decks same thing , have you ever seen a wood deck after six or eight months at sea ? So to shield from spotter planes , Cadet Blue or Deck Grey , ( Blue Grey) was and is ,  used on all horizontal surfaces .

 If you get a plethora of Navy ships in a harbor , now , all you see is grey . Wouldn't it be nice if this was different ? Except Cruise ships , commercial vessels have gone from Black hull , White or Buff upperworks to Blue , Green or Buff hulls , still with White or Grey-White upperworks . Used to be if there were ships in port you could tell whose they were by colors . Now they have to spell it out in Giant letters on the Hull sides .

 there also used to be another recognition factor , Stacks ! Yup , you could tell who was who by house colors on the stacks . Buff Stacks , Black tops ,  with a dark blue M , for instance , was Matson navigation colors . Marad is Grey Stacks with Red , White and Blue bands on the stack just under the black top band .

 So you see the ways we identified ships is fading away . Even during W.W.2 you could tell a Kure or Sasebo ship of the I.J.N. by the color of grey . Ours was four different colors of Grey depending on northern or southern yards and which coast . The (" easters ") I call them were heavier in the Bluer grey .The Atlantic is a different hue than the Pacific in the fog . 

 Of Course there are exceptions to every situation and the cruise lines have proven that . Sunbursts and other patterns on the sides of their ships . . My gosh depending on the routes Murals even ! T.B.

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