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Landing Ship Tank
Posted by Centurion34 on Thursday, January 3, 2019 3:39 AM

I thought I saw a post a few months back that a manufacter was making a LST? Not the old Lindberg kit. I hope this was correct. If there is one ship that is overlooked for impact on the war it is the LST!

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Posted by jeffpez on Thursday, January 3, 2019 5:24 AM

I don't know exactly what you're looking for but there are several landing craft kits out there.

https://www.scalehobbyist.com/catagories/Ship_Models/browse.php?s=0&t=1&era=0,6&u=8,9

 

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Posted by EdGrune on Thursday, January 3, 2019 6:18 AM

Centurion34

I thought I saw a post a few months back that a manufacter was making a LST? Not the old Lindberg kit. I hope this was correct. If there is one ship that is overlooked for impact on the war it is the LST!

Yes,  AFV Club just released a 1:350 scale LST-1.  It was announced/shown at the IPMS Nats this summer

Decal options for 8 ships in Measure 21,22,31, and an overall 5L light gray. USN options only,  no RN ships

Options for up to 6 LCVPs.  Open or closed bow doors.  No vehicles included, they are a separate purchase

I showed Richard Harden of Toms Modelworks the kit when we were at the Nats.   He looked at it and said there wasn’t much in the kit for him.  It would probably benefit from some generic rails and gun details. 

The first of my four LSTs is started. The tank deck went together well. There are some ejector pin marks on the insides of the open bow doors and the bow arch  It will be done in Ms 22 Another will be done in Ms 31.  Other potential options include an aircraft carrier deck from Southern France,  a Brodie rig aircraft catcher, or a RN Fighter Director Tender. 

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Posted by retdfeuerwehr on Saturday, January 5, 2019 8:11 PM

As a former LST sailor I'm disappointed in the choices for LSTs being offered - resin, plastic, whatever. The manufacturers seem to ignore the fact that the 1156-class LSTs were the backbone of the Brown Water Navy. One can find the old WW2 LST models, and a few resin 1/700 1180-something class Ts. I served on Windham County (LST1170) and have been trying for years to assemble enough good detail photos of ships of that class to build a replica....alas, a mostly fruitless search. Who ever thinks, when they're actually serving aboard, that one day they'll need good photos to build a model??? So.....any 1156-class LST sailors who have some good photos of their LST command, please contact me.

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Posted by Centurion34 on Thursday, January 10, 2019 2:22 AM
Outstanding ! Thanks!
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Posted by Nino on Thursday, January 10, 2019 2:20 PM

retdfeuerwehr

"... I served on Windham County (LST1170) and have been trying for years to assemble enough good detail photos of ships of that class to build a replica....alas, a mostly fruitless search. Who ever thinks, when they're actually serving aboard, that one day they'll need good photos to build a model???"...

 

retdfeuerwehr,
 
     I do not have good High-quality pics of actual LST's and I do not mean to overstep my posting on this thread but should anyone get to the Washington DC Navy Yard there is a terrific model of an LST. It has a full interior with cutaway Starboard side.  Sorry I did not get more Pictures during my limited stay.
 
 
 
 
 
 
     It's great that a 1/350 LST kit has been released.  The old plastic 1/700 and 1/245 kits never measured up as good replicas IMO. 
 
Ed,  
     Other than the mentioned mold release/ejector pin marks, any other obvious issues with the AFV kit?  For Its size It does seem to be rather expensive compared with other 1/350 kits of USN vessels.
 
     Nino
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Posted by EdGrune on Friday, January 11, 2019 5:12 PM

Nino

 Ed,  

     Other than the mentioned mold release/ejector pin marks, any other obvious issues with the AFV kit?  For Its size It does seem to be rather expensive compared with other 1/350 kits of USN vessels.
 
     Nino
 

Otherwise it is pretty clean.   No knock out marks in visible areas.   Where the left & right hull halves join there is a seam which needs attention.   Care at the stern,  those 'sink' marks are the mounting depressions for the stern anchor housing.

What may be noted is more of a problem of what is not there, or only barely there.  The deck and bulkhead hatches have no detail.   There is a hint of hinge and dog detail.   PE appliques may be required if you're going to super detail.   Some of the bulkhead vertical ladders are molded very faintly.   They may disappear under a heavy paint coat.   The deck ventilators are solid cyliners with collars - no hint of grating or openness as seen in a couple of your pix.   The 40mm single guns are slight on detail.  The 40 twins show better return spring detail.   Gub tubs and gun shields are somewhat thick, but are at limits of injection .

The Whelen davits are very nice.   The LCVP arwen gun tub walls are too thick as is the washboard by the engine.  Judicious sanding and some fake canvas covers will disguise them well.

All in all, quite buildable.   Go light on the paint and practice up on your drybrushing skills.

There is another 1:350 LST, by Iron Shipwright, in resin & brass.  Has some of the typical ISW problems of bubbles on cast part corners.  Hatch detail is better as are the gun tubs.   Whelens are not so good.   It too is open tank deck (not a solid box).  It comes with some vehicles.

As far as price,  The AFV Club kit is half again the size of one of their subs and has MANY more parts.  Remembering the old rule of thumb that it cost $1000 per part (second world costs) to design, produce, and market a model kit, IMO the price is in line with the effort.   It may be viewed as overpriced in the market, but it may be being measured against a cruiser/battleship vs destroyer.   And it is the only plastic game in town

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, January 12, 2019 12:16 AM

retdfeuerwehr
1156-class LSTs

Floating Drydock had a set of plans for the 1156 class.  Can't remember what level of detail they were (and, at the time I was looking for Newport Class plans).

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Posted by Tanker - Builder on Sunday, January 13, 2019 6:43 AM

Hi;

 I was recently reading up on strange sources for commercial buildings .Therin I found what appeared either a real one modified or a building shaped like an LST .It was a proposed restaurant !

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Posted by Tracy White on Monday, January 28, 2019 12:21 AM
I've got two of the AFV Club LST kits and agree with Ed's assessment. It's not a perfect kit, but it's a good one. It' only covers the earlier LSTs and isn't really appropriate for the later LSTs used in the Pacific that had the LCTs on deck and the Rhino barges or causeways lashed to the sides of the hull. Hopefully this one does well enough that they'll release other versions.

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, January 28, 2019 6:20 AM

Black Cat Models is coming out with a LCT-5 and LCT-6 in 1:350 scale.   They are due out in next month or so. Troll through NAVSOURCE and out can come up with some pix of the deck cribbing (I see Evergreen here). 

BackAft Models (Carl Musselman) made some Rhino Ferry/pontoon sections.   They are OOP. Maybe he was ahead of his time

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Posted by armornut on Monday, January 28, 2019 7:34 AM

    I would like to see LST 1190(?) , the USNS Boulder. One of my uncles served as a deck ape on her in Brooklyn Naval Shipyards. He cruised to St. Crouix, and other Carribian ports. 1/350 scale of course.

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Posted by EdGrune on Monday, January 28, 2019 11:40 AM

armornut

    I would like to see LST 1190(?) , the USNS Boulder. One of my uncles served as a deck ape on her in Brooklyn Naval Shipyards. He cruised to St. Crouix, and other Carribian ports. 1/350 scale of course.

 
1190,  that's the Newport class,  destinctive two horns holding the landing ramp.  1968 vintage.  Much more different than the WWII era LSTs under discussion.   Even the 1156 class (County-class) which FireFighter references is essentially a stretched version of the WWII ships.
 
That being said,  you're in luck.  Iron Shipwright makes a 1:350 scale version of the Newport class.
 
 
It is resin, photoetched brass, and white metal.  Decals provided to do the whole class.
 
JAG Collective did a 1:700 Newport class (waterline only, resin & brass).  It is now OOP, but you may find one on the secondary market
 
 
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Posted by armornut on Monday, January 28, 2019 12:50 PM

   Very cool, thank you for the info. Apologize for veering alittle off original discussion. Thank you.

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Posted by wreck523 on Wednesday, December 22, 2021 4:02 PM

Hi all, 

 

First time post and replying to an old thread here...

 

Does anyone have any recommendations on 1/350 WWII ERA (unshaded) Hull number decals for these LSTs? Tied a few options from the resin shipyard but coming up dry.

 

Thanks in advance..

Wreck

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