USS Arizona Memorial - Revell, Shapeways - 1/426:1/429 scale - by SigEp Ziggy

as you are doing the pre-attacked & the memorial versions, why not do the attacked version before all masts, stack & deck clutter was removed? if you want to go a bit wild at it but not like me with my OBB/s, why not do all the various versions since she was built?

The 'Today' will look like this

The 'Before' wil look like this captured Japanese photo

I will need to scratch build the Vestal from plans and this photo of 1/350 resin kit

I have not given up on this build, however, I have added a new wrinkle.

I have decided to build this diorama as a 'Before the Attack' and 'The Arizona Today' diorama!

So, my wife gave me the green light to buy another Revell kit.

The Arizona looks very different with some black primer on her, I still have to work on the forward decks

nice to see you back on this , looking forward to the rest .

Thanks everyone for the kind words and shown interest, I will post more updates

Hey You!

       It's nice to see someone doing it like I do! Your project is coming along nicely!

Glad to see you back at it, this is an amazing project.

BK

Thats coming along nicely. I like what you are doing.

I started working the Arizona again,

Cut the base to fit the model and did a rough water depth, also I modified some PVC fittings to add detail to the turret 'holes'

Working on the base.

I got the bollards done on the aft deck.

I needed to make larger bollards for the Arizona.  I had planned to cast duplicates from a scratch built bollard, but I decided to just build them assemble line style.

Now I just need to glue them together.

Amazing research and detail!

I wasn't able to go to the memorial when I went to Pearl Harbor a few years back, but I was able to see it from the deck of the Missouri. 

Still adding details...

Working on the details of the aft deck and put a coat of paint on the Memorial!

Making a little progress on the USS Arizona.

Thanks Steve, you don't how much this helps. I will be working on memorial soon and your Model Monkey's moorings!

Here are reduced-size scans of two of the architectual builder's plans of the Arizona Memorial including the mooring quays drawn by Naval Facilities Engineering Command (NFEC) at Makalapa, Hawaii, recorded 30 August 1977.  The drawings may be helpful to you.  

Larger scans of these drawings and other NFEC drawings were used to create the Model Monkey 3D-printed Arizona Memorial and mooring quays.

The plans show the correct location of the viewing well, the correct shape of the quays, and their relative position to the wreck, the Memorial and each other.  The viewing well position in the 3D-printed Arizona Memorial model matches the position as recorded in the official Navy blueprints.

Hope this helps!

I purchased some 1/2 MDF and will be starting the base of the diorama.

Working on the hull and getting ready to glue decks on.  Also I'll post a photo of the drawing on the memorial that shows the correct position of the viewing well and where HooYah's photo was taken.

At the risk of sounding callous, and that some of my work is reflected in those drawings, the NPS drawings are started on a blank sheet of paper, so to speak. This means that if someone mis-measures, then it gets draw in, still incorrect. Some of these measurement were done under real poor visibility conditions whic caused some errors. For examples, on 1984 drawing (the upper one), on the port side of barbette 4 there is a hatch laid out at an angle. That was because the diver measured off the gunnel, but did not realize that the deck edge is 'scalloped' there. so they drew his data in incorrect. Also, on both drawings turret 2 gunhouse sides have chunks 'missing'. In actuality they don't. and any picture postcard photo of the ship will show that.

What this all says is that despite drawings noted as 'official', they may not be accurate. One must use a variety of source material and gleen what you can, with an open mind.

Based on the Arizona's 1941 Booklet of General Plans,  the measurement for the  1.1" Gun  Tub is 14' in diameter.    The existing belief is for an approximate 8' Square base as in the USS Oklahoma plans and as shown in a photo of USS Maryland.

Link:   http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=12942&start=1860   Another member interperted the plans to indicate a 22" diameter pole to support the gun director platform.    Somethung extra... I did not recall these two Drawings being posted here before. Arizona "submerged" :   Alt link for image:  https://bloximages.chicago2.vip.townnews.com/tucson.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/8/ac/8acd8a1c-ac2b-11e6-830a-0bc5709966ce/582ca71966c76.image.jpg?resize=1200%2C926       .

HooYah Deep Sea

The actual pedestals for the aft 1.1" gun (Directors) are columns 2' in diameter with platforms 6' in diameter, They stand about even with the finished rim of the gun tub. 

For a better perspective of this photo...

   Nino

Steve and I were discussing the pedestal for the gun tub being square; but the pedestal for the director platform is most definately round. That I have actually seen. On the ship today (or when I was there back in the 1980's) you can't see the pedestal for the gun tub as it is under the silt  that has accumulated there. the silt 'bank' starts about even with the forward side of the #3 barbette, and builds up to about 2/3's the height of the bulkhead at frame 88. Back in the day, with the poor visibility, it looked like the tub nearly sat on the deck, but the director pedestals stick above that.

& is not the director's pedestal be 2' square not diameter as was discussed with Steve above?

In the picture you posted, you cannot see the 1.1" gun tubs, they are under the memorial. The picture I posted is looking down through one of the openings in the deck of the memorial.

The round 'open' pipe-like thing is the starboard crane kingpost.

something is wrong with your picture as does not match structurally with this picture.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/01/013944b.jpg

The actual pedestals for the aft 1.1" guns are columns 2' in diameter with platforms 6' in diameter, They stand about even with the finished rim of the gun tub. 

Here is the starboard side director platform, note the curved edge of the gun tub next to it. The actual height may be more than 6'. The gun tub was about 14' on diameter.

Steve, I meant to thank you sooner, but thank you for your info, comments and the parts/catalog you provide us modelers.

HooYah, you are correct about the 1.1 tubs, trying to make use of the part I have left over. Question, should the range finder pedestal for the 1.1 guns be scale 6 feet tall?