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Question for Tanker-Builder, or others
Posted by retdfeuerwehr on Sunday, April 12, 2020 6:31 PM

I'm in the process of getting info together for an attempt at a 1/350 scale AKA - specifically, USS MERRICK (AKA97) which I served on 1966-1967 (Gawd, am I glad I got off that ship!!)...I need to find the hull stations to get the correct hull dimensions for the frames. Can you help me, or turn me to a direction where I can get this info.....I've tried the usual sites, but no success. TIA

 

Doug Bauer

Albany, OR

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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, April 12, 2020 7:57 PM

US Library of Congress - Historic American Engineering Record (HAER) project

They have drawn & digitized plans of several ships in the mothball fleets.   Included is the USS Gage an APA.    Yes, the Gage is a Haskell class which is based broadly on the Victory ship hull, and the Merrick is an Andromeda class, a Federal Built C2 hull.  Its a start.

https://www.maritime.dot.gov/sites/marad.dot.gov/files/docs/about-us/history/vessels-maritime-administration/936/gagehaerreport.pdf

I don't see a C2 hull.   I'd need to dig deeper\

EDIT:  Here's a Liberty hull

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Posted by Tojo72 on Sunday, April 12, 2020 9:13 PM

retdfeuerwehr

I'm in the process of getting info together for an attempt at a 1/350 scale AKA - specifically, USS MERRICK (AKA97) which I served on 1966-1967 (Gawd, am I glad I got off that ship!!)...I need to find the hull stations to get the correct hull dimensions for the frames. Can you help me, or turn me to a direction where I can get this info.....I've tried the usual sites, but no success. TIA

 

Doug Bauer

Albany, OR

 

Cool,my father served on AKA-91 USS-Whitley would love to follow your progress if you get it going.

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Posted by EdGrune on Sunday, April 12, 2020 10:05 PM

And my father was a plank owner on the USS Oberon (AKA-14), an Arcturus-class hull.   Also a Federal-built C2

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, April 12, 2020 10:49 PM

I could only add that a scratchbuilt C2 would be a much better undertaking at a larger scale. say 1:96 or 1/16" (EDIT: 1/8") equals 1 foot. Or 1:192 or 1/32"(EDIT: 1/16") equals 1 foot.

Larger scale scratchbuilds of auxiliaries make great display models.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by ddp59 on Monday, April 13, 2020 9:21 AM
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Posted by CapnMac82 on Monday, April 13, 2020 6:35 PM

GMorrison
1:96 or 1/16" equals 1 foot.

Our most excellent Bill speaks truth.

Also, there area ton of accessories in metal, resin and the like to help you cope with the repetitive bits and bobs.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, April 13, 2020 6:41 PM

Hola!

      I am in the process of digging out the U.S.S. Burleigh. I believe she's a Haskell Class.

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Posted by CG Bob on Monday, April 13, 2020 8:54 PM

GMorrison

I could only add that a scratchbuilt C2 would be a much better undertaking at a larger scale. say 1:96 or 1/16" equals 1 foot. Or 1:192 or 1/32" equals 1 foot.

Larger scale scratchbuilds of auxiliaries make gret display models.

 

Bill

 

The Scale Shipyard  offers fiberglass hulls in 1/96th scale for the C2 (57 & 3/8" LOA x 7 & 7/8" beam)and Liberty ship (55 & 3/16" LOA x 7 & 1/2" beam).  

It appears that Bill's post got garbled in puncuation.  1/96 scale is 1/8" = 1'.

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, April 13, 2020 10:45 PM

Thanks Bob.

Yes 1/96 is 1/8" inch equals one foot.

Big scale scratchbuilt ship models are much easier to do, as a major kind of project.

I have rolled up drawings of the Maritime Commission ships, all from the LOC.

 

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 8:24 AM

Hi Bill;

  There is a Bar( or was a bar?) on the Suisun Straits on the Martinez side. They had a very large model of the C-2or3  that I believe was a Scientific Kit from years ago. Over the bar no less.

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:11 AM

I got into ship modeling as a kid when we used to eat at a nice restruant in Detroit that had a nice sailing ship model displayed on the wall.  I was already into (wood) airplane models.  That would have been about seventy years ago.  I figured if I could do model airplanes I could do a ship, and found a revenue cutter kit, either Scientific or something similar, and have been building ship models ever since.  I think the ship displayed in the restruant was a clipper.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by ddp59 on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 9:49 AM

Tanker-Builder, U.S.S. Burleigh is a Bayfield Class Attack Transport not a Haskell Class Amphibious Attack Transport.

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/03/03095.htm

http://www.navsource.org/archives/10/03/03117.htm

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, April 14, 2020 10:34 AM

Corrected my math.

So I wonder if a Liberty hull might be a place to start. Length, beam and displacement fairly close, and they sort of look the same.

Deck level up, all different except some of the fittings might work. But that's 1/350 if you start with the Trumpeter J O'B.

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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