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Posted by Rick Sr on Wednesday, May 6, 2020 12:19 PM

Ok, restarted this thread as HMHS Britanic...not responsible for spelling!

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 5:59 PM

According to the accounts, it sounded like she flooded about the same way, and went down in just over 50 minutes, albit with a bigger hole in the starboard bow.

 

Going to be a nice project, would be a nice display with all three together.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 5:54 PM

I don't know the answer, but being built in the shadow of the Titanic tragedy, I do know she had improved watertight compartments.

You might think about changing the title of this thread to HMHS Britannic.

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Posted by Rick Sr on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 5:39 PM

You can only see one side of the ship at a time, and at 880 feet long I would imagine an 18" difference in beam wouldn't be too obvious. I wonder if the added beam had to do with stability?

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:47 AM

Kind of a neat show.  They do detailed sonar scans and build a CGI image of the wreck and then pull back the water. You get a really nice view of the wreck and the debris field.

That one had the AAmaco tanker that went down off Brittany, and the Derbyshire (they actually found the data recorder on her).

Along the lines of "Drain the Oceans"  Worth watching, IMO, if you get the chance.

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:33 AM

Is that a good show? I know tankerbuilder watches it.

I wonder what accounted for the 18". Harland and Wolff did after all have the lessons learned from Titanic.

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Posted by goldhammer on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 11:08 AM

Caught a show on mega wrecks on "Drain"....She was 18" wider than Titanic, the same length.  Laying at 400 ft.  They backtracked about a half mile from the wreck site, and actually found a mine casing remains.  Said it was probably laid by a U-boat about 3 weeks prior.

Can't imagine what the loss of life would have been had she hit it on the way back.....she could take 3000 patients on board.

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Posted by Rick Sr on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 10:16 AM

Got more guns mounted in the Connie, while waiting for the glue to dry on the eyebolts I primed the Britanics hull and painted it white.

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Posted by Rick Sr on Sunday, May 3, 2020 8:18 PM

Still working on breec lines on the Constitution hun deck. Sfter beginni h to feel crosseyed, i pulled out the Britanic, drilled out the windows then promed the hull.

Now back to the Connie!

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 2, 2020 8:49 PM

For your project the right name would be HMHS Britannic.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzgkcvhfwys

You can see in the photo of Britannic I posted, and this CGI although I don't trust those things: There were hideously ugly electric davits at the fore and aft ends of the boat deck. The narrator claims that if the war hadn't intercepted the design of the ship, the idea was to have them continuous the length of the deck.

In the event, only 30 of 1100 or so souls were lost when she sank, so it did prove capable.

For those (Embarrassed) who disappear down useless-fact rabbit holes, the progression of boat and davit design has some interest. In fact the most current configuation is in many ways the simplest. Pilot gets in boat, pulls release lever; boat slides down rails and lands in the water. Earlier designs required that there be crew in the boat to release the falls once it was floating. Someone came up with a hydrostatic release system to automate that. Then there was the problem of extending the davits from stowed to operational. At first it was push the boat one way, swing one out, push the boat the other way, swing the other out. Then, mechanical with a hand crank one at a time. Then the Welin davit where both were connected with an axle.

Later, these things that made Britannic look like an UNREP ship.

 

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:57 PM

GMorrison
One difference is that Britannic had a lot more lifeboats.

There are some superstructure changes, too, IIRC.  Like a bunch of areas converted to having canvas covers, so that convelesing patients could "take the air."

I remeber seeing a 1/350 conversion somewhere online, that gave the resourses used and the changes made.

I want to remember that the big deal is that Britannic sailed with Whelan davits, replacing the shepard's crook "simple" davits.  And you need about double the umber of boats.

I think.
Maybe.
Perhaps.
YMMV.

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Posted by Rick Sr on Saturday, May 2, 2020 6:52 PM

That last one is the ship I saw. I think after finishing my Constitution I will take the Titanic model and convert it to the Britanic hospital ship.

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Posted by GMorrison on Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:44 PM

In order, they were Olympic, Titanic and Britannic.

Olympic had a long life and was a troop ship in WW1. She was scrapped in 1935 after she became obsolete.

Titanic had a short life.

Britannic sailed slightly longer, into WW 1. She was a hospital ship, hit a mine and sank in 1916. She was the largest ship lost in WW 1.

It wouldn't be hard to build all three. AFAIK they were pretty identical. One difference is that Britannic had a lot more lifeboats.

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Posted by goldhammer on Saturday, May 2, 2020 5:30 PM

IIRC, there were 3 based off the same design.  Titanic, Olympic, and Britanic.  The last ran over a mine in WWI, I believe off Turkey.

Britannia was the Royal Yacht until 97.

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Hms Brittania
Posted by Rick Sr on Saturday, May 2, 2020 4:49 PM

I saw a picture of what looked like a Titanic but it was white with a green stripe broken by two red crosses and was sunk by a mine.

Was this the same as Titanic, the Olympic class or were there differences?

I have an old Titanic gathering dust and thought converting it to this ship might be interesting...a post Constitution build after that one is finished.

The Minicraft was made in China and is model 11320. I got it in 2004.

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