I hate asking, but.....

ikar01

 

Does anybody make one in 1/350th scale?

 

I think you forgot something.  What ship are you asking about?

ikar01

 

Does anybody make one in 1/350th scale?

 

Make one of what in 1/350?

ikar01

Does anybody make one in 1/350th scale?

Yes they do, but they are in short supply and difficult to find.  

Now I REALLY think we are all going crazy!

I’m pretty sure that you can find it in box scale...

HK will have one out in 1/35 in a month, but it will be flawed in many ways.

I ordered one from Squadron, but apparently it's out of stock.

Atlantis just re-released the old Hawk version...but it was in some odd 'prime number' scale, like 1/317.

I can't believe I did that.  Well, when you get to be my age, and hurrying to finish before a couple medical appointments...

Anyway, it was the Great Lakes carrier, Wolverine.  I have the 1/700th scale, it's a good kit but water line.  I would like one with the full hull and conplete paddle wheels.

Probably not very likely.

ikar01

I can't believe I did that.  Well, when you get to be my age, and hurrying to finish before a couple medical appointments...

Anyway, it was the Great Lakes carrier, Wolverine.  I have the 1/700th scale, it's a good kit but water line.  I would like one with the full hull and conplete paddle wheels.

Probably not very likely.

A dozen plus years ago, Iron Shipwrights' Jon Warneke told me that he had plans for a Sable/Wolverine in 1:350 scale resin & brass kit.   His engineering bug-a-boo was how could configure what he saw as a multi-part mold to reliably and economically cast the hull.   One-piece hull,  multipiece hull,  if so what about differential shrinkage?    Then there would be the cost to design and etch an extensive PE under deck girder array and feathering paddle wheels.  Their Langley cost north of $400 bucks.  This kit would have been more.   The sales numbers didn't work out. 

Shame.  I guess I'll have to be content with the water line kit.  Maybe I could put it alongside a dock, I've seen dock kits in teat scale.  Trying to do it with the paddles moving woiuld be a real bear of a job and I'm not that good with water.

ikar01

I can't believe I did that.  Well, when you get to be my age, and hurrying to finish before a couple medical appointments...

Anyway, it was the Great Lakes carrier, Wolverine.  I have the 1/700th scale, it's a good kit but water line.  I would like one with the full hull and conplete paddle wheels.

Probably not very likely.

 

 

Not that I know of.  I have a book with great scale drawings in it.  I do intend to scratch it.  I am trying to develop the knack of making photoless PE using toner transfer paper.  That ship had a lot of visible girders like the Langley, and to me PE is the only thing that makes sense in that scale.  If I succeed with the PE, I will post the build here.

I wonder.. we've discussed this before.

My design training, and I suppose my inclination, would be to approach this with reductive thinking.

This doesn't need to be super detailed right off the bat.

Maybe  all basswood shapes, detail along the lines of a recognition model.

I.e. the paddlewheels are simple disks, the girders are square stock.

Then make up your projects.

Deck, bridge, paddlewheels, hull.

Bill

GMorrison

I.e. the paddlewheels are simple disks, the girders are square stock.

The sense of that I get.  The issue will be that these were very modern sidewheelers, relatively high-speed passenger steamers, with steel, not iron, wheels with equally fine-sections steel for the feathering.

This would scale out to be lace-work in PE brass, esp at 1/350

The flight decks were fascinating, they wanted a minimum height above the water, but did not have a requirement for a hangar deck (so they just had to clear the machinery).  But, the flight deck was well above the CG, so it was a veru "airy" sort of build.

Metacenter height was reasonable, as they both had been designed for staterooms as tophamper.  But the flight deck was pretty open and exposed.

Probably 1/350 is about the limits to where this could be replicated (and I'd wager it would take a lot of 3d printing rather than PE).  At 1/600 or 1/700 the structures would likely be impossible, at least to scale, that is.

But, I could be over-thinking the question, too.

It seems the Wolverine and Sable are in a tough spot where there are a lot of technically challenging aspects to them that one of the 'big guy' companies could probably solve, but it is unlikely to be economically worth their time. Meanwhile, this is right up the garage kit alley, but the technical aspects may just be too tough to handle, when combined with the low sales potential. 

One of our fellow modelers is using CAD created laser cut paper.

I did that once for a topping out party fold up, but it's tricky.

MJames70

when combined with the low sales potential.

Yep. 

Guns?  Not a one (other than the pistol for the OoD).

Bombs?  Nope.

Sexy fighters?  Nope--motly trainers and old a/c versions.  Just good enough to carrier qual.

And, paddlewheels!

Yeah, we purists grok the idea.  Wolverine was where a skinny Ensign carrier qualified for the first ime.  He'd later get an Avenger shot out from under him and need a ride in a sub to get home.  His Presidential Library stands on the campus of my Alma Mater.

And the engineering side of 320# steam driving fully feathering sidewheels for the only freshwater operating carriers?  Yeah, I'm cool with that.  $450 to $750 worth of short-run multi-media kit that's virtually a scratch-build?  Maybe less so.

At that level of investment, I'd be sore inclined to scratch up a semi-waterline in 1/72 just to make the a/c acquisition easier.

Ditto to the last.

A great POTUS he was. 

Trainer aircraft on that ship tend to be an interesting lot.