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Revell 1/72 Schnellboot S-100 with Flak 38 WIP

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Revell 1/72 Schnellboot S-100 with Flak 38 WIP
Posted by docidle on Sunday, August 2, 2020 11:18 PM

Whilst and at the same time as I’m finishing the Elco PT Boat and the USS Arizona I’m adding the S-100 Schnellboot to my insanity.

I’m building the Revell 1/72 Schnellboot S-100 with Flak 38. I have both the Griffon PE set although not the top of the line one as well as the Eduard PE set. I’ll probably not use the ArtWok decking as it doesn‘t give any depth to the model deck. I have a boatload of 3D parts from Shapeways that cost a pretty penny to say the least and way over the cost of the model to say the most.

I’m posting my obligatory sprue shots first. I haven’t photographed all the extra 3D gear I’ve purchased over the years but I’ll get that done tomorrow along with a shot of the reference materials I’ll be using. I’m tempted to over gun this puppy although I’ve not found any references so far about the Kriegsmarine doing this with their boats, but what the heck! I’m thinking of using the Flak gun in the center position and using the 40mm on the stern. The mines will be used as well as depth charges, one rack of each.  I’ll also be mixing and matching decals just for grins and because I want to.

So without further ado, let’s do this thing,

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Monday, August 3, 2020 12:18 AM

definitely pulling up a chair for this one steve , your really going the whole hog on it !

 

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Posted by Bish on Monday, August 3, 2020 2:46 AM

Watching. Looking forward to seeing what you do with it.

''I am a Norfolk man and i glory in being so''

On the bench: Revell 1/72nd Type VIIc U-Boat

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Posted by docidle on Wednesday, August 5, 2020 4:13 PM

Bish and Steve,

Thanks for following along gentlemen. Hopefully I can do half as well you did on your S-Boat Bish.

As promised, here is the reference materials I'm using as well as the 3D goodies. The PE and 3D gear cost WAY more than the kit itself, so if anyone is thinking of building this kit, it really does look nice right out the box. I really need to get my Advanced Modeler Syndrome under control.

So, here are the reference books and there are numerous pictures on the net too.

Steve

All right, here are the 3D extras from Shapeways.com. They are from the designer IRON-Models. He has a great selection of 1/72 as well parts for the Italeria 1/35 monster.

https://www.shapeways.com/shops/iron-models 

"Ye have been warned, there be monsters lurking here."

Here are the replacement torpedos. I bought these since later I'll show parts that I think will be a cool idea too. I originally purchased the Griffon metal torpedos which are beautiful but the propellers are really a bear to attach.

Next up are the torpedo tubes. It's difficult to see but the hatch to one is separate so that I can attach the rear end of one of the torpedos to it as if it is being loaded.

I'm planning on opening up the forward ends of the torpedo tubes so that you can see the last torpedo already loaded. Which will be one of the metal ones.

Next up are the smoke making cylinders. It's kinda hard to see but they are way more detailed than the kit parts.

Here are the replacement propellers. If I was only going to change one thing on this model, it would be to change the kit propellers. They are really off. I'll show a comparison later when I get to that stage.

Here are the fuel hoses to replace the ones in the kit. A VERY minor detail but if you have Advanced Modeler Syndrome like I do,  then you'll understand. Hmm

And finally we have the Targeting Computer. It's difficult to see the beautiful detailing but when it's painted up it will look fabulous.

As I said earlier, all these parts are not expensive by themselves but when you add them up... well you get it. Now let's see if I can justify all these goodies by building this into at least a passable model.

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Saturday, August 8, 2020 10:12 PM

A bit of actual modeling update. The kit has bulges and such for induction and ejection ports. Some under the waterline and others above. There are two ports on both sides of the hull forward that are completely missing that I plan on creating.

I’ve finished drilling out the kit holes but need to do add the others. To give depth to the ports/holes I added tubing behind them and then painted the interiors Black.

I used Evergreen Tube #225 - 5/32“ (4.0 mm) for the smaller holes and #227 - 7/32“ (5.5mm) for the larger. The tiny holes were drilled but no tubing behind them. In the Kagero book on page 7 and on the drawings, there are two smaller holes just under the waterline forward on both sides. They look like they would use the #225 tubing.

Steve

 

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, August 18, 2020 5:11 PM

A small update but well worth the effort.

Using the fold out plans from the Kagero book, I was able to locate and drill out the last holes at the bow section needed on this boat. I then used my Chopper to slice little tiny frames and glue them on. I REALLY like the Chopper by the way, it has proven to be well worth the cost.

And finally I glued the hull halves together, although I am now wishing that I hadn't. I'm planning to drill out the forward part of the torpedo tube hatches and add tubing behind them to add depth and to locate one of the torpedos inside. It probably would have been immensely easier to drill these with the hull seperated...

Steve

 

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 5:06 PM

I've been working on the base so that I know how I'm going to mount this boat. I usually hate the pedestals supplied by the kit manufacturers so I mount my builds in various ways. If I'm spending time on building a kit I want to make sure the presentation is worth the time and effort. 

Anyway, the keel on this Schnellboot is thin and changes width from the stern to the bow, so regular pedestals wouldn't work. Neither would thin Brass rods with nuts and bolts to hold down the rig because I was afraid that I would split the keel if I tried to drill it. Therefore I bought a plank of Red Oak and routed the edges for the base. I then picked up some Basswood square dowels for supports. After measuring and remeasuring and squaring up the whole thing I came up with the amount dowels I would need on and started cutting and sanding. You'll note the lines I drew on the base and on each dowel.

After gluing all of the first course I let it dry overnight. The next day I laid the boat down and used rubber bands to position the keel over the centerline. This was "interesting" to say the least and a pain to say the most.

Again, because of the thinness of the keel I couldn't drill holes for nuts and bolts therefore I couldn't have just one course of support. I also purchased square dowels that were half the size of the first course and fitted the depth of the keel. Again these were measured and cut, sanded and then glued down like the first course.

Starting from the stern and then the bow, I glued them on one at a time, first port then starboard until they met in the middle. Why I did it this way is so that I could place the smaller dowels up against the keel and glue them down to secure the boat.

I'm sure there is a simpler way to do this so here are the pictures as a warning for anyone thinking of mounting this model in the same fashion. Enjoy.

Steve

  

       

 

 

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Posted by steve5 on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 7:54 PM

gee I love watching you work steve , preparation is key . should look great when finished .

 

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Posted by dhenning on Tuesday, August 25, 2020 7:56 PM

Very nice!  Much better time to make the fitting and modifications then when you are much further along.

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  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Wednesday, August 26, 2020 8:55 AM

Hi Steve!

     Do you have a contour tool? You could put two solid wood bulkheads inside the vessel No higher than the waterline. 1/4 " thick and shaped to the inside of the hull. Epoxy in place. Drill Hole aproximately 1/8" all the way through. Drill through bottom of base.Put bolt through all and tighten nuts.

     That's one way. The other is do the same and Using an All thread rod the right size Thread into lamp finials and tighten nut inside vessel and mount deck. Done! I do like what you have done though. Age the wood and on the bottom piece age it to appear to be concrete for the drydock bottom. Don't forget to put Stabilizer wedges That would be about an 1/8" inward of the side of the boat. There would be at least eight. Mostly under the engine room and mid ship locations. and blocks under the hull outboard of the keel near the lower bilge curve. Four on each side.

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Posted by docidle on Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:45 PM

Thanks guy, I appreciate the kudos. Now I have to figure out what color to stain it. I presently leaning towards Walnut to give the beams a creosote look.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:51 PM

Tanker-Builder

Hi Steve!

     Do you have a contour tool? You could put two solid wood bulkheads inside the vessel No higher than the waterline. 1/4 " thick and shaped to the inside of the hull. Epoxy in place. Drill Hole aproximately 1/8" all the way through. Drill through bottom of base.Put bolt through all and tighten nuts.

     That's one way. The other is do the same and Using an All thread rod the right size Thread into lamp finials and tighten nut inside vessel and mount deck. Done! I do like what you have done though. Age the wood and on the bottom piece age it to appear to be concrete for the drydock bottom. Don't forget to put Stabilizer wedges That would be about an 1/8" inward of the side of the boat. There would be at least eight. Mostly under the engine room and mid ship locations. and blocks under the hull outboard of the keel near the lower bilge curve. Four on each side.

 

Tanker,

I got the idea for getting a bolt through the hull but I still worried about cracking the keel itself. I've used plastic or wood blocks on the bottom of hulls before to give a better connection for the hardware but still wary about the keel.

Now on placing wedges, etc... I'm going to need a visual to figure out everything you said! I was just thinking of staining the wood and calling her done instead of really doing a diaroma of a dry dock, although it would look VERY cool.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Saturday, August 29, 2020 7:52 PM

Next up are the torpedo tubes. I'm planning on drilling out holes at the forward end of the boat and then adding Evergreen tubing to replicate the tubes. I'm also planning on placing a torpedo in one of the tubes and having one being loaded in the other(see 3D additions).

The drilling of the boat doesn't have me too worried but drilling or using PE for the tubes exterior end is making me nervous.

Here is as far I've gotten. The tubes were cut and angled to fit the forward end and dry fitted to see if this crazy idea will work. I used the kit hatches to mark off the size of the hole to be drilled. I'll post more shots as I progress but any and all input would be appreciated.

Steve

       

 

 

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Posted by docidle on Sunday, September 6, 2020 8:49 PM

Continuing with the torpedo tubes, I started small by attaching PE to the lids first. Not a big deal but a step forward.

Steve

Next I marked off the size of the hole needed to be drilled. Then again starting small and working up to a point where I needed to measure again. It's always easier to take away tthan trying to replace plastic that you've removed...

To make sure that I had the angles right and to further hone the openings, I started drilling small holes on the exterior portions of the tubes which are kit parts.

As you can see, I was making small holes and then digging out portions. You can also see that I made a mistake and drilled way to close to the edge and had to fill in with Perfect Plastic Putty. Measure twice, cuss once or more...

And so on to this point.

Getting closer to where I want to be. I had to file at an angle so that the torpedo tubes would allign.

Then dry fitting to see how much more I needed to remove from the hull.

Now to dry fit all the components to see how they fit together. The PE is for the facing around the exterior tubes.

Note that the opening is completely round.

Everything lines up and now I need to clean up the openings to make them smoother.

Next up will be surgery on two of the smoke gererators stands and then onto the bridge and more major surgery.

 

       

 

 

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