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Airfix 1/600 SS France
Posted by ChrisSC on Thursday, September 3, 2020 2:40 PM
After enjoying building the Airfix 1/600 RMS Queen Elizabeth I purchased as many 1/600 Liners as I could find. The rarest one is the Airfix SS France which I finally found on ebay at a high but reasonable price. She is my current project but I have to be careful since messing her up and trying to replace her would not be easy.

So far she is in prime with the propeller shafts and stabilizers installed. I really would have preferred to leave them until near the end of the build but they needed a lot of filler which would have messed up the paint job. I'll just have to watch out for them as they are very delicate. Once I get the hull painted and mounted on the stand they will be much less vulnerable to damage.

The holes for the shaft supports were just a mess and the hull had quite a bit of warp to it so I filled the support holes first from the inside with styreen sheet and then putty on the outside. I also glued in a brace of styrene sheet to help hold the two halves of the warped hull together. She needs a little more filler before paint.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Saturday, September 5, 2020 5:37 AM

ChristSC,

Nice work over coming the warped hull.  I sure you are going to find other surpises with an old AirFix kit. 

Marcus Beer

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Posted by Nino on Saturday, September 5, 2020 11:22 AM

ChrisSC,

 

  Nice putty work and congrats on the hullfix.  These old 1/600 liners are great kits. Glad you got a SS France. Keep an eye out for an SS Canberra if you have not already procured one.

 

     Nino

 

 

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, September 5, 2020 12:41 PM

Hi;

 Yeah , mine came from a yard sale. Warped too!

 It seems that the Q.E.2s warp over time. I don't know why. If you can find a Canberra/Oriana go for it. There is a difference in the ships, But you can overcome it!

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Posted by ChrisSC on Saturday, September 5, 2020 2:38 PM

Thanks guys. I added a bit more filler and am in the process of painting the hull. Between coats I routed, drilled, and polyurethaned the display base.

I think the Canberra is the only liner I am missing. As you can see I have enough to keep me busy for some time!

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Posted by ChrisSC on Sunday, September 6, 2020 12:52 PM

Well I got the color on the hull of my 1/600 France. Now I need to put decals and a coat of flat clear on it. When that's done I will try to figure out how I am going to paint all these tiny windows.

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Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, September 6, 2020 8:26 PM

Well there's the Oriana, and the Lindberg APL ship.

The Revell NS Savannah is a good one too.

Sort of a seagoing Studebaker Avanti.

Modeling is an excuse to buy books

 

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Monday, September 7, 2020 11:35 AM

Nice work on the hull.  The hull has very graceful lines, looks like she would be very speedy on water.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by ChrisSC on Monday, September 7, 2020 10:35 PM

Marcus McBean

Nice work on the hull.  The hull has very graceful lines, looks like she would be very speedy on water.

Marcus Beer

 

Thank you. I believe she could achieve 35 knots with a service speed of 30 knots, pretty fast. 

GMorrison, I guess the world needs some Studebaker Avanti's too lol!

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, September 7, 2020 10:53 PM

SS France, SS United States and RMS QE 2 were each in their own one liner too late.

The 707 was in the air by the early 1960's. Cruise ships were not yet a concept.

Building a 35 knot liner had no real return for the speed.

About that time the resistance to rolling became a bigger design goal for the comfort of the more leisurely passenger.

 

Bill

Modeling is an excuse to buy books

 

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Posted by ChrisSC on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 1:36 PM

GMorrison

SS France, SS United States and RMS QE 2 were each in their own one liner too late.

The 707 was in the air by the early 1960's. Cruise ships were not yet a concept.

Building a 35 knot liner had no real return for the speed.

About that time the resistance to rolling became a bigger design goal for the comfort of the more leisurely passenger.

 

Bill

 

Yes Bill, all true. I am a bit partial to the earlier liners but these three you mention were the pinnacle of ocean liner technology IMO. Particularly The France was a beautiful ship. I could do without the funnel design of all three though. I think the United States funnels were a bit too large and the other two were just kind of odd. The United States could move pretty well, even in reverse! As I understand it a lot of the United States design was kept close to the vest for some time.
It just goes to show you how quickly situations can change. In the time that passes between the concept being drawn up and the completion of the ship they became mostly irrelevant. Just as with the US battle ships, the Montana class was found to be a thing of the past before being built. Airliners did in the ocean liners and carriers did in the battle ships. I'm a big fan of both battle ships and ocean liners and would loved to have seen a Montana come to be.
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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, September 8, 2020 2:18 PM

A little bit of history,

The last Captain of the SS United States, and Commodore of the United States Lines was a guy named Leroy Alexanderson. He was born to Swedish immigrant parents, in New York, in 1910.

He was commissioned in both the Merchant Marine and the USN (R) in 1930. I came across his name while reading a fascinating set of pages from a wartime diary kept by the father of one of our members. This father was assigned to a fleet oiler stationed in Iceland in 1942, in support of transatlantic convoys.

Alexanderson himself was in command of USS Melville AD-2, a WW1 vintage destroyer tender that was also in iceland servicing the large numbers of "cans" that came through in both directions. Our correspondent mentions Alexanderson as a straight up and respectable guy whom he enjoyed having dinner with while in port.

Alexanderson had several more commissions, on APAs in the Pacific. He was in command of USS Gage APA-168 landing elements of 6th Marine at Okinawa.

He returned to Merchant Service in 1947 and continued his career with the United States Lines. He died in 2004 and was buried with full military honors in his Commodore's uniform.

We can discuss the significance of Gage and her enduring conributions to museum ships, another time.

 

Bill

Modeling is an excuse to buy books

 

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Posted by ChrisSC on Wednesday, September 9, 2020 11:37 AM
Well I gave it my best effort to get all these tiny windows painted but unfortunately the results were disappointing. The scale, number, and irregularity of the frames is just beyond my ability as a painter. Time to move on.

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Posted by ChrisSC on Thursday, September 10, 2020 3:45 PM

Decals are done.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Friday, September 11, 2020 5:53 PM

Sweet! Looking mighty fine.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by ChrisSC on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:42 PM

Marcus McBean

Sweet! Looking mighty fine.

Marcus Beer

 

Thanks Marcus. I've been dealing with my Mom's health issues so I haven't had time to work on my 1/600 France. Today I took a little break and did some painting. Not so sure about the color I chose but the ship had green decks. This color is a gray that has a green tint. I really don't want to paint it a dark green so this is what's going to be on there.

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Posted by ChrisSC on Wednesday, September 23, 2020 6:59 PM

Just laying the decks on there the color will be good enough for me.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Thursday, September 24, 2020 3:58 AM

ChrisSC,

Good choice of colors, they blend very nicely with the hull.  I doubt the French would paint the ship decking fence green. 

Marcus Beer

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Posted by ChrisSC on Thursday, September 24, 2020 12:28 PM

Thanks Marcus. I masked and painted the bridge windows and attached the forecastle on my 1/600 France. Lots of tiny pieces of tape!!

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Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, September 24, 2020 11:33 PM

Here is a helpful suggestion for any and all building ship models.

The name of the ship and her home port of registry.

The name at the stern should be level with the water. The home port of registry parallel and horizontal to same.

And usually center registred.

Kit decals give it a guess, but usually might only be right if the distance above the waterline is the same as that of the location on the model.

The way to solve this is to mark a pair of baselines parallel to the waterline. Then cut the decal for each letter and apply the type on that line letter by letter.

 

Bill

Modeling is an excuse to buy books

 

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, September 25, 2020 1:14 AM

Dude!  You are cranking out these liners and they look fantastic!  Nice work.  And your tape/masking work could get you a job at Eduard I would think.  Really enjoy your builds.  My Titanic sits and waits for me....lol

Thanks,

John

Ain't no reason to hang my head, I could wake up in the mornin' dead 

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Posted by ChrisSC on Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:34 PM

GMorrison

Here is a helpful suggestion for any and all building ship models.

The name of the ship and her home port of registry.

The name at the stern should be level with the water. The home port of registry parallel and horizontal to same.

And usually center registred.

Kit decals give it a guess, but usually might only be right if the distance above the waterline is the same as that of the location on the model.

The way to solve this is to mark a pair of baselines parallel to the waterline. Then cut the decal for each letter and apply the type on that line letter by letter.

 

Bill

 

Thanks Bill. This stern decal looks like it was printed wrong. No matter where I positioned it the curvature wasn't right. I guess I should have cut it up and did it in pieces but I already had dunked it in the water.

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Posted by ChrisSC on Saturday, September 26, 2020 12:38 PM

keavdog

Dude!  You are cranking out these liners and they look fantastic!  Nice work.  And your tape/masking work could get you a job at Eduard I would think.  Really enjoy your builds.  My Titanic sits and waits for me....lol

 

Thanks keavdog. Yeah I have been going at a pretty good pace since I started building these liners. I figure I'll build these smaller ones and save the big 1/200 Trumpeter for last. I can see that thing taking tons of time to build with all the detail kits I have for it. I've come to like these old 1/600 Airfix kits.

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Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, September 26, 2020 2:43 PM

OOPS!

    Somehow My post didn't make it in here. I wanted to compliment you for doing such an excellent job on the ships. You must note the beautiful Sheer line( The curve at deck between Bow and Stern). The fact that your painting is awesome enough to catch that and emphasise it, is wonderful. I enjoy popping in for a look see!

  I wish There was a model of the original Normandie for you to do. Ouch! that would be awesome too!

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Posted by ChrisSC on Saturday, September 26, 2020 7:53 PM

Tanker-Builder

OOPS!

    Somehow My post didn't make it in here. I wanted to compliment you for doing such an excellent job on the ships. You must note the beautiful Sheer line( The curve at deck between Bow and Stern). The fact that your painting is awesome enough to catch that and emphasise it, is wonderful. I enjoy popping in for a look see!

  I wish There was a model of the original Normandie for you to do. Ouch! that would be awesome too!

 

Thanks Tanker-Builder. That sheer line was a little tricky at the very tip of the bow....it gets mighty thin there.

 

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Posted by ChrisSC on Sunday, September 27, 2020 1:51 PM

I got the rear decks on my France painted and can finally see what the colors look like together. The reddish funnels and lifeboat interiors should bring some life to it. It still needs some adjustments and all the details added but it's coming together.

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Posted by ChrisSC on Monday, September 28, 2020 2:42 PM

A lot of masking for very little gain, a few square inches...maybe. I think I'm gonna paint a white line at the bottom to separate the black from the deck.

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Posted by Marcus McBean on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 7:52 AM

ChrisSC,

No pain no gain. Your effort has really a lot of detail that would have been missed, nice work.

Marcus Beer

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Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:42 AM

Chris,

Ship modeling often requires a lot of effort for what seems to be little gain. But, it is those little gains that carry so much impact and could easily turn a mediocre model into a masterpiece.  Your efforts are giving you just that!

Bill

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Posted by warshipguy on Tuesday, September 29, 2020 9:46 AM

By the way, have you considered adding some photoetch?  WEM produces a fairly extensive collection of 1/600 sets for most of the Airfix range. Even simply replacing the Aztec stairs with PE ladders could make a huge difference.

Bill

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