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Posted by Luvspinball on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 12:28 PM

Looks awesome.  Love your base also.  Top quality display piece.

Bob

Bob Frysztak

Luvspinball

Current builds:  Revell 1/96 USS Constitution with extensive scratch building

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Posted by Model Monkey on Tuesday, October 20, 2020 8:10 AM

Beautifully done!

Tough kit to make look good and yours is wonderful.

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Posted by Chemteacher on Monday, October 19, 2020 7:16 PM
Beautiful work.

On the bench: Revell-USS Arizona; Airfix P-51D in 1/72

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Monday, October 19, 2020 3:07 PM

Keavdog: Thanks bunches, but I was not a "ship guy" till recently. Normally I've always been a car guy. FSM group builds (GB's) have really got me engaged in other subjects. I have really learned a lot in these GB's.

HooYah Deep Sea: My most sincere thanks for your research and authentication assistance during the build.... and thank you for the kind words.

CapnMac82: Thanks for the clarification regarding the call sign pennants. I am still learning this naval stuff. I'm always grateful for my FSM friends who provide information to help me in my modeling. Now I need to determine if I am going to correct the call sign and anchor issues or call it done.

Jrock83: Thank you sir!, I hope so indeed....

 

Ben 

 

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by Jrock83 on Sunday, October 18, 2020 12:14 AM

Simply Superb! I hope all who perished on that day are looking with ear to ear smiles down on what you've accomplished.

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, October 17, 2020 5:38 PM

DRUMS01
Thanks again for the extra eyes looking her over, it is appreciated.

That was my entire intent, educational.

I could not zoom the previous photos tight enough, so those blow ups are really informative.  And the results are spectacular.

In the Stillwell photo, she's tied up to the pier, so she'd not be flying a call sign per se (a messenger can be sent over for communications).

Out on a mooring or on anchor, the call sign is hoisted so that if radio or signal lightcommunications are needed, the "address" for those will be available.  So, if a signall light starts blinking, then NACV knows that it's for them, and not someone further away or in a similar direction.

It's a subtle thing much colored by expereince.  On an LSD, there way more freeboard than draft, so the hull reacted to wind far more than curent when moored, so there was no guarantee which side of the ship would "face" a given direction, so the call sign was flown from both sides.

Doesn't take athing away from your build, not in the slightest.

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Posted by HooYah Deep Sea on Friday, October 16, 2020 10:30 PM

DRUMS,

Having been there, done that with ARIZONA, I am proud to say that yours is one of a very, no, extremely few models of ARIZONA with this level of correctness. I congratulate you on your accomplishment, as I am well aware of the efforts required to reach that pinnacle.

You have done the crew proud, Thank You.

BRAVO ZULU, Well Done. "AT 'EM ARIZONA" 

"Why do I do this? Because the money's good, the scenery changes and they let me use explosives, okay?"

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Posted by keavdog on Friday, October 16, 2020 5:38 PM

What a beautiful piece.  Funny how you ship guys know all the details like the companion way etc.  It's all in the details as my mother used to say.  Nicely done.

Thanks,

John

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Friday, October 16, 2020 4:54 PM

Thanks Goldhammer, Don, and Shipwreck for the kind words. I really had no idea what I was getting into when I started it, but I am overall very happy with what I have learned through the research as well as the challenges which were overcome during the build process. 

Just out of curosity, I did indeed keep track of the time and cost in the build. It worked out to 896 hours and $845.86 in product including taxes and shipping (of course the labor was free).

Thanks again.....

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

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Posted by DRUMS01 on Friday, October 16, 2020 4:48 PM

CapnMac82,

Thanks for the response its appreciated, but I do not believe you looked close enough at the photos, specifically....

(1) "Also one or both boat booms ought to be rigged out, with a companionway over the side from the quarterdeck". 

ANSWER: look closely and you will see a boat boom deployed on the aft starboard side with a companionway just a little farthur forward.

(2) "And, at anchor, there ought to be an anchor & chain over the side".  

ANSWER: look closely and the forward photo of the bow and you can see the deployed anchor with chain in the water. There is just a very small amount of splash around the chain. Regarding a certian detail to and anchoring, I will take the bite on that one as it was not shown in the photos I used for reference. Thanks as I will use that information on my next PSNSY period build.

(3) "She ought to be flying her call sign of November; Alpha; Charlie; Victor from one yard arm or the other".

ANSWER: Based on the detailed historical photo while at Puget Sound, 18 January 1941, in the Paul Stillwell book, there was no call sign flags or pennants on her at the moment of the photo so that is how I created her.  

By all means please continue to call me out on anything that is obviously missing and I will be happy to correct it. Thanks again for the extra eyes looking her over, it is appreciated.

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

LAST COMPLETED:

1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

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Posted by CapnMac82 on Friday, October 16, 2020 11:34 AM

DRUMS01
It is shown as anchored in February 1941 at the Puget Sound Naval Ship Yard

Really outstanding stuff there.

You may have chosen the exact right date to display here in all her glory.

Only leaves a couple of minor quibbles.  She ought to be flying her call sign of November; Alpha; Charlie; Victor from one yard arm or the other.

Also one or both boat booms ought to be rigged out, with a companionway over the side from the quarterdeck.

And, at anchor, there ought to be an anchor & chain over the side. 

But, PSNSY used moorings rather than open anchorage.  The mmorings used a bouy poised above a huge anchor.  The bouys wea about 12-15 feet across, and were fitted with a sizable padeye at the top center.  The ship fetching up to a mooring chose one of the anchor rodes, and detached the anchor on it, leaving it suspended from its stoppers.  The remaining rode was brought forward through the bullseye with a swvel link attached.  This was lowered down to the bouy and made up with a large shackle. 

Due to the overwhelming mechanical advantage the bouy was anchored with, the ship could ride at short stay to the bouy--five or six fathoms off the bouy.  Unless there was a lot of wind, or a stong current, the chain hung in a catenary.  In a stout fetch, though, the chain over the bullseye could be straight and the bouy tipped at 45º (putting the "special" into the Special Sea and Anchor Detail).

Thse are the things only an old salt would notice.  Especially if they've had to rig block and tackle to pass chain through the bullseye, then heave it back on deck to fit the swivel in.  Or having had to get the XO to put a boat over the side to collect deck apes off the bouy.

Still an outsanding build carried off so incredibly well.

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Posted by Shipwreck on Friday, October 16, 2020 11:34 AM
That is a very fitting tribute to the Arizona. Thanks for sharing your work!

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Posted by ddp59 on Friday, October 16, 2020 10:16 AM

goldhammer, this is what i am doing with Revell's 1/429 scale USS Arizona.

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=59&t=165105

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Posted by Don Stauffer on Friday, October 16, 2020 9:59 AM

Beautiful! I have the kit in my stash and will do the build following your example.

 

Don Stauffer in Minnesota

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Posted by goldhammer on Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:22 PM

Simply put....an absolute masterpiece out of the southbound end of a northbound sow.

I have the HB issue of this kit, it's no better than the old Revell kit.  I looked at it, and closed the box and relegated it to the back of the shelf, never to see the light of day again.  I'll never come close to achieving your level of talent and skill.

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  • From: Ohio (USA)
1/350 USS Arizona
Posted by DRUMS01 on Thursday, October 15, 2020 11:02 PM

Hello all....

For everyone following in the group build thread for Ships of the American Flag, here is the final reveal. As requested, I am listing the products used during the build, identifying the kit shortfalls, corrections for accuracy, and additions or modifications performed along with the final photos.

KIT: 

1/350 USS Arizona manufactured by Banner 
(also sold under Hobby Boss and Mini Hobby)

ADDITIONAL PRODUCTS USED DURING THE BUILD:

- Eduard super detail PE set # EDU53016
- Eduard super detail PE Set # EDU53069
- Eduard USS Arizona Railings # EDU53078
- Tom's Modelworks cranes and catapults PE set #TMW3528
- Tom's Modelworks boat details PE set #TMW3529
- Alliance Modelworks WW2 US Naval vessel wiring, cable, routers #NW35020
- Alliance Modelworks WW2 triangular perforated gussets #NW35032
- machined naval vessel ships bell #CYG011
- machined US Navy bollards and metal anchor chain #CYG007 (Qty=2)
- US Navy upgrade set #CYE012
- Master Models machined brass barrels (22) #350049
- Trumpeter 1/350 OSU-2 Kingfisher float planes #6249
- Blue Ridge Model's VF-5 decal set (for correct OSU-2 insignia) #BRM1109
- Scale Decks wood deck #LCD-42
- China value based wood deck (for small boats)
- AK Interactive US Navy WW2 camouflage paint set 1
- AK Interactive US Navy WW2 camouflage paint set 2 
- AK Interactive thinner, brush cleaner
- Tamiya 1/350 Naval crew # 12622
- Minted USS Arizona challenge coins (2)
- Hobby Lobby 5x18 picture frame (for base)
- Hobby Lobby 1/8" premuim mat board
- JTT resin water (blue and clear)
- JTT model railroad snow powder
- Brass, plastic, aluminum rods, sheets, extrusions (various)
- welding solder (.162, .031, .015) various lengths
- Cements (CA glue, Testers clear glue, Loctite gel, debonding agent, insta-set)
- Brushes and applicators (various)
- Hobby knife razor blades (many for PE alone)
- Wet/dry sanding paper (various 320-2000 grit) 
- Sew-ology clear nylon rigging thread #1254360

RESEARCH PUBLICATIONS:

- The Battleship Arizona (Waldemar Goralski)
- USS Arizona, The enduring Legacy of a Battleship (Ineo Bauernfeind)
- Battleship Arizona, An Illustrated History (Paul Stillwell)
- USS Arizona, Squadron at Sea (David Boyle)
- USS Arizona, Ships Data (Leeward Publications)
- USS Arizona Ships Drawings, Arizona Memorial Museum Assn.
- input from various first hand experts

KIT SHORTFALLS, CORRECTIONS, AND MODIFICATIONS:

- Poor deck fitting and details (corrected with wood deck, PE and scratch components)
- Poor design and seams in superstructure (corrected with PE, plastic, brass, etc.)
- Poorly molded 5" broadside gun stations (modified for soft covers, brass barrels)
- Poorly molded stairs, ladders, doors, vents (removed old, corrected with PE sets)
- Poorly molded aircraft (disgarded, corrected with Eduard, PE and scratch items)
- Poorly molded anchor chain (removed old, corrected with real scale chain)
- Poorly molded hawes pipes and anchor locker holes (reshaped, PE, plastic)
- Poorly molded barrels and design (discarded, scratch build with metal barrels)
- Poorly molded detail on main guns (corrected with scratch and PE parts)
- Poorly molded splinter shields and gun tubs (removed, replaced with PE, scratch work)
- Poorly molded and inaccurate superstructure (removed, replaced with PE and scratch)
- Poorly molded and inaccurate conning tower (removed, replaced with PE)
- Poorly molded and inaccurate signal flag boxes (removed replaced with PE)
- Poorly molded cranes and catapults (discarded, replaced with PE, and scratch items)
- Poor detail under all platforms (removed, replaced with PE and scratch items)
- Boat mounts incorrect and poor mold (removed, replaced with PE and scratch items)
- Rear gun tubs molded wrong (removed, replaced with PE and scratch items)
- Boats and barges lack any detail (corrected with PE and scratch items)
- Incorrect leading edge of hull armor plate (reshaped corrected belt lines)
- Incorrect bilge keels (did not use lower half of hull)
- Incorrect location for main mast tripod legs (modified model and scratch items)
- Incorrect signal platform in kit and Eduard (modified, scratch items, PE)
- Incorrect platforms/stairs by vegetable locker (partial scratch fix)
- Incorrect search light structures on exhaust funnel (removed, fixed with PE)
- Incorrect flag poles (front, rear, main mast) (removed and created from scratch)
- Incorrect masts and antenna array (removed, fixed with PE and scratch items)
- Missing R.D.F. Hut on superstructure (created from scratch)
- Missing Mk#49 platforms/rings superstructure (created from scratch)
- Missing Mk#49 raised platforms stern tubs (created from scratch)
- Missing and incorrect Eduard PE conning tower stairs (scratch built with PE)
- Missing incinerator (created from scratch)
- Missing all open chocks (created from scratch)
- Missing reels, waterproof doors, vents (corrected with PE)
- Missing anchor details (corrected with PE and scratch)
- Missing flags for bow, stern, no signal flags, (corrected from scratch)
- Missing sky top MG Platform for 41 (fixed with PE and scratch items)
- Missing fore mast sky perch for 41 (corrected with PE)
- Missing boat booms on sides of hull (fixed with scratch items)
- Missing hull observation planks (fixed with spare part PE)

After all that, I present my corrected USS Arizona. It is shown as anchored in February 1941 at the Puget Sound Naval Ship Yard prior to its departure to Pearl Harbor. It is painted in the correct period colors.

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A special thanks for all those who provided resources, information, motivation, and encouragement during the build (you know who you are).

Thanks for looking, your feedback is encouraged.

Ben

"Everyones the normal until you get to know them" (Unknown)

LAST COMPLETED:

1/35 Churchill Mk IV AVRE with bridge - DONE

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1/35 CH-54A Tarhe Helicopter

 

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