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  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: Cape Cod, Mass
Posted by Rick Sr on Friday, January 22, 2021 9:27 PM

Ahhh, the USPS!

Fed EX, UPS, seem to do a better job. Haven't tried Amazon yet. 

My Shipyard 1/72 card stock HMS Alert is coming USPS, I hope it gets here in one piece!

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    October 2019
  • From: Cape Cod, Mass
Posted by Rick Sr on Friday, January 22, 2021 9:22 PM

I had no problem with Gorilla glue. On the Comstitution, with the gun deck Scale Decked, it raised the deck just enough that the bulkheads for the Captains quarters had to be be filed down. That was just one deck. I adjusted the gun barrels down using the trunions, and that worked well.

On a multi deck each deck would be affected. The Scale Decks are about 1 mm thick. Doesn't seem like much but on a scale model it can cause extra work.

I laid down the Gorilla glue, used clamps to hold it and let it sit for two days.

On the Minicraft 1/350 Titanic, there was the same problem with the multiple decks.

If the deck fit is a problem a little sanding and filing should do the trick.

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 11, 2021 11:58 AM

So for example if the wood has a cut out for a deck house. When you go to add detail parts like ships ladders to it, you need to adjust for misalignment.

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    October 2016
  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Monday, January 11, 2021 11:42 AM

ahhh, got it.  Didnt know what "they" were referring to....  Decks.  So, this is so thin its hard to believe its wood.   Bad angle but less tham 1mm thick

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Monday, January 11, 2021 10:34 AM

If I may respond to the question.

By adding a layer, items added onto it will sit higher than intended.

The classic case is mounting cannons on a sailing ship. An added wood deck raises the barrels where they pass through the gun ports.

Be sure that your wood deck can lie flat without glue. You can't depend on the glue by forcing down any kinks or tight fits with the deck.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    October 2016
  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Monday, January 11, 2021 8:51 AM

GMorrison

At least they are rolled up. i bought a bunch of K+S brass rod recently. They were packed in a long thin cardboard tube.

For some reason the USPS decided to bend the tube about 30 degrees in the middle.

 

Bill

 

Yikes!  Well your not alone. Sorry....  My mail for awhile now has been so beat up and mangled that I e signed up for informed delivery so that at least I get a picture of it before delivery. That way, if I have to file a claim, at least I may have a picture of it in good shape. . Comes to my email every day. Kind of an unbelievable service to me actually.  I can't believe they waste the time and money on it considering how much the USPS has been loosing over the years.

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

  • Member since
    October 2016
  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:29 PM

Rick Sr

Used them on my 1/96 Constitution and 1/350 Titanic. Used Gorilla glue to attach them.

You may have to trim the edges if there is any excess along the edges, even minute.

They do raise the planking so watch for fit on upper decks as that could be affected a little. 

They come rolled in the tube as it is sturdier packing and offers better protection. Before you begin to mess with them, untube them and lay them flat with books or something to flatten them out, and leave them overnight. They really dress a build up.

Tks for the tips.  Question - doesnt the gorilla glue expand?  Does this cause issues?  What are you referring to when you mention They do raise the planking?  Tks much

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Sunday, January 10, 2021 8:00 PM

At least they are rolled up. i bought a bunch of K+S brass rod recently. They were packed in a long thin cardboard tube.

For some reason the USPS decided to bend the tube about 30 degrees in the middle.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: Cape Cod, Mass
Posted by Rick Sr on Sunday, January 10, 2021 6:32 PM

Used them on my 1/96 Constitution and 1/350 Titanic. Used Gorilla glue to attach them.

You may have to trim the edges if there is any excess along the edges, even minute.

They do raise the planking so watch for fit on upper decks as that could be affected a little. 

They come rolled in the tube as it is sturdier packing and offers better protection. Before you begin to mess with them, untube them and lay them flat with books or something to flatten them out, and leave them overnight. They really dress a build up.

  • Member since
    October 2016
  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Friday, January 1, 2021 2:32 PM

For shipping I'm sure. It's kinda big and I'm guessing easier to roll it up in the packaging to fit in a narrow box as opposed to shipping in a long package. It was rolled to about the circumference of 1.5 the size of paper towel tube. 

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Friday, January 1, 2021 12:44 PM

So it gets packaged flat but then rolled up to be shipped? Kind of odd.

Having a king plank, joggling and nibbing around the edge and a waterway plank is really nice and something very hard to do on hand laid planking.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    October 2016
  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Friday, January 1, 2021 12:23 PM

tks.  had to ask as like i said i was only familiar with the other kind and that was what i was expecting.  appreciate it. 

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

  • Member since
    February 2020
  • From: South Carolina, USA
Posted by ChrisSC on Friday, January 1, 2021 10:20 AM

Yes that's the way all mine have come. The way he designs them is to fit under some things on the decks as opposed to cutting around them so I guess that's why he keeps them thin. Also beware the planking is printed on the wood with ink so if you get any liquid on them they will smudge. 

I think he states that you should clear coat them to avoid that issue but if you do VERY light coats or it will mess up the ink...and only spray on the clear, no brushing. I install them without coating but am very careful not to get anything on them. Hope this helps.

  • Member since
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  • From: Louisiana Gulf South
Scaledecks wooden deck question
Posted by Mrchntmarine on Friday, January 1, 2021 10:09 AM

so i saw this item on ebay where it said 1 left and also on amazon(where i thought it also read only 1 left) and picked it up even though i have yet to find the model.... 

https://www.amazon.com/Premium-World-Chaser-Glencoe-Ringo/dp/B0791453SR/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=glencoe+wood+deck&qid=1609516544&sr=8-2

Looking now at the ad, i guess there are more now available. hummmm.  Anyhow, question - i was under the impression that the deck was going to be firm wood, like balsa wood.  When it arrived it was rolled up in a small box and seems to be almost like paper.  Is this "normal"?  Ive looked at 1 or 2 decks i gotten in the past, 1/700 scale and they are thicker cut wood.  I thought i had gotten them from scaledecks but upon looking this am, they are blueridgemodel.com from freetimehobbies.com.  Question :  are all scaledeck decks paper thin?  Just a little surprised, but maybe they are all paper like??

Tks

Keep on modeling!

All the best,

William

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