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The building of the HMS Beagle

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  • Member since
    March 2009
  • From: brisbane australia
Posted by surfsup on Saturday, September 2, 2023 10:02 PM

Super work. Cannot build a Wooden Kit to save myself so hats off to you Gents who can.....Cheers Mark

If i was your wife, i'd poison your tea! If Iwas your husband, I would drink it! WINSTON CHURCHILL

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    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Monday, August 28, 2023 9:44 PM

Tanker-Builder

Heving-Fun!

      Listen, there is something I cannot emphasize enough, when I talk to folks. Modelers who've done it for a long time and various subjects have passed their bench. We ARE our own worst critics. We cannot seem to realise that other folks viewing our work May NOT be as conversant in the details as we are!

      Personally, Looking at the Beagle I would sail with you Cap'n!

 

Thank you sir! Yes, you are correct in that we are more critical of our work than the casual viewer, I have to keep reminding myself of that so I can let go of some detail that I can not see to get it perfect.

Joe

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Monday, August 28, 2023 10:37 AM

Heving-Fun!

      Listen, there is something I cannot emphasize enough, when I talk to folks. Modelers who've done it for a long time and various subjects have passed their bench. We ARE our own worst critics. We cannot seem to realise that other folks viewing our work May NOT be as conversant in the details as we are!

      Personally, Looking at the Beagle I would sail with you Cap'n!

  • Member since
    February 2018
  • From: North Carolina, USA
Posted by Model Monkey on Sunday, August 27, 2023 5:55 PM

Lovely!

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    March 2022
  • From: Twin cities, MN
Posted by missileman2000 on Sunday, August 27, 2023 11:49 AM

GMorrison

Theres a product I like called "Balsa-Foam". It's a bit spendy but nice to work with, its extruded polystyrene.

Blick sells it. Amazon too.

 

Bill

 

 

 

Is that the stuff also called patternmaker's foam?

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Saturday, August 26, 2023 12:06 PM

 

It is finally done! I have completed the construction!

 

This model have been a learning experience for me, I have improved my knowledge on how to plank the hull, also some new tricks to facilitate the work. I have attached some photos of the completed ship.

 

I do would like to make a comment on the instructions, this is a Occre model, and, as I discussed before, they have over 120 Youtube videos to facilitate the building.

 

These videos are very good in showing how to build some of the most complicate items, also how to run the ropes during rigging. The way this is done is by picking up an example then show how the item is to be worked, but, it may not show everything and the videos are not in subsequent order. which means that, if you follow the videos, you will assembly the ship in a order that is not the most practical.

 

Originally I gave the instructions a B plus or A minus, but, after completing the ship I downgrade the instructions to a C plus  or B minus. I would recommend for anyone building this model to become familiar with how the instructions are setup to facilitate the building.

 

In any case, these instruction are a lot better than Artesania Latina.

 

Well, no more complains, here are the photos:

side completed

Mast top

mast side

Now it is time to start researching for my next target!

Until next time

Joe

 

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Monday, July 10, 2023 1:22 PM

 

Well, here is another update:

 

I have completed the installation of the rat lines, as anyone who has ever done this, it does takes a lot of time. They do not look to bad. My next step is to add the final rigging in preparation to adding the sails.  The kit came with cloth sails, I am planning to make them more authentic by putting them in a solution of old coffee and water for a couple of days, if there is a better idea on how to do this,  please feel free to let me know.

 

Well, here are 2 photos of the ship

rat lines

more rat lines

Until next time

Joe

 

 

 

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Thursday, June 29, 2023 5:14 PM

fox

Coming along very, very nicely! Toast

Stay safe.

Jim Captain

 

Thank you

Joe

fox
  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Thursday, June 29, 2023 4:27 PM

Coming along very, very nicely! Toast

Stay safe.

Jim Captain

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Thursday, June 29, 2023 9:18 AM

 

Back again!

 

I have completed the installation of the shroud lines, next time is to do the rat lines. The build has proven to be a slow build due to the details and lack of experience on my part, but is coming along and hope to have it completed in about 2 months. The instructions are not as good as I originally said they were, it does have over 130 you tube videos, but, the videos tells you how to build specific parts of the ship but does not guide you trough the entire build, you have to relay in the printed documentation and the drawings. If I were to rate them, I would give a b minus. Still, they are a lot better than Artesania Latina

 

Attached there are 2 photos showing a closeup of the blocks and a better view of the entire ship. The white board in the back is to make the details stand out.

 

The first photo is a close detail of the blocks:

 

blocks

 

 

The second photo shows a view of the entire ship:

 

Side of ship2

 

Until next time

Joe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Saturday, June 17, 2023 1:46 PM

missileman2000

As far as the boats, I always hang them after completing the rigging.

 

 

Yes, I found out very quickly that if the boats are installed it would be very difficult to do the shroud lines.

 

I have completed the construction of all 3 masts and glue them into position, I started to add the shroud lines, and, as usual it is a very slow and tedious operation.

 

I guess it is part of the fun of building a wood model. The following 2 photos shows the progress made. It looks that, at this rate, I may finish this build in a couple of months.

Ship side

front of ship

 Until next time:

Joe

  • Member since
    March 2022
  • From: Twin cities, MN
Posted by missileman2000 on Saturday, June 10, 2023 9:28 AM

As far as the boats, I always hang them after completing the rigging.

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, June 9, 2023 11:59 AM

Oho!

 A Virgo! Well then this perfectionism thing must leak. I am a Taurus and my lady says when it comes to perfectionism I drive her Nuts! My lady herein is my Landlady whom I have asked for her hand more than once. Nuff Said!

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Thursday, June 8, 2023 9:18 PM

 

 

Here again!

I have completed and installed the Bow sprint, see photo, this bow sprint has several details and blocks that had to be installed. It was an interesting job.

I have almost finished with the fore mast ( Notice that I am beginning to learn naval terms )it is not yet glued to the deck but it will be soon, the next step is to do the main mast, I have started to build the components.

It is getting there! Until next time

Joe

Bow sprint

Fore mast

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    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Thursday, June 1, 2023 9:56 AM

Tanker-Builder

Hey!

     You are doing alright on this.I  would try the recommended Blue Jacket Shipcrafters on parts in scale.Yessir ! those boats can be a pain, Looks like you had some Aspirin or Aleve to help you with the headaches here.! Nice so far.

 

 

 

Yes, I have been buying Aspirin by the truck load! I also been drinking a herb called Tilo (Justicia pectoralis) made into a tea that my Admiral prepares for me, this is to calm me down when I get very frustrate, which happens often, during the build.

What makes it worse is that, being a very hipper person and a Virgo, I tend to be a perfectionist, so I get very frustrated when things do not look perfect, even when I know most people will never see the defects on the model.

But I keep on trucking, and learning at the same time, so, on my next build  I will have the experience to do the project without getting frustrate.

Joe



 

  • Member since
    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Saturday, May 20, 2023 11:38 AM

Hey!

     You are doing alright on this.I  would try the recommended Blue Jacket Shipcrafters on parts in scale.Yessir ! those boats can be a pain, Looks like you had some Aspirin or Aleve to help you with the headaches here.! Nice so far.

  • Member since
    September 2012
Posted by GMorrison on Thursday, May 18, 2023 4:52 PM

For some reason the postimages won't open, but the posted versions look good.

If those pins are still loose, you could paint them brown. They were probably wood on the Beagle. Other choice would be iron painted black.

Very nice model, coming along.

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Thursday, May 18, 2023 4:36 PM

 

Well, I am back with an updated report:

 

I have finished building the 4 lifeboats, they were a chore to build due to their size and not being able to clamp anything. Attached is a photo of the completed lifeboats.

 

ship with lifeboats

 

I will not mount them in the proper location, which is what the instruction tells you to do, because, I believe that if I were to do so I will have a problem later when is time to run the shroud lines. Here is another photo of the progress.

 

lboats

 

Joe

 

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Friday, May 5, 2023 1:22 PM

I most do appreciate your advises and critique, being a novice and not having any knowledgeable of the ships of the era, you guys comments are welcome.

I do agreed that the belaying pins appears to big for the ship, but, those are the ones that came with the kit, and, not knowing what size they are supposed to be and even if I knew, I would not know were I could buy a set of the proper size, I have little choice but to use them. I do believe that there are several items that are either to big or are of a incorrect scale for the size of the ship, for example the ladders, I do not think that the ladders are correct, but I build them following the instructions.

As for the glue, I only used crazy glue because that was what the instruction called for. I personally do not like to use it, but, due to fact that is almost impossible to clamp the planks, I did not see another choice but to use crazy glue.

Again, thanks for the comments, I always welcome them.

Until next time

Joe

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    October 2019
  • From: New Braunfels, Texas
Posted by Tanker-Builder on Friday, May 5, 2023 5:56 AM

Hi!

       Nice looking ship! Good Work! BUT! I do have to point ot one thing and I hope you won't mind. You have Belaying Pins that are way out of scale. The size of those pins in scale are not as big as baseball bats.

       Belaying pins are to secure or belay working lines for the sails.They would have to be big enough to do that but also allow one handed release in an emergency, similiar to a Quick release tow Strap on a cargo.

       Surely you have heard the term"Belay that for now" That applies to any working line that is loose! Other than the pins she is looking good. I bet you got the pins in the OCCRE kit, right? That's your problem, get your scale and call Bluejacket Shipcrafters in Maine and they will sell you Pins that are in scale.

       I hope you don't thing I am downing your model or work. In  OCCRE and MAMOLI Kits this happens more times than I can remember. I had one where the pins were so small they would fall through the holes in the pinrails!

  

  • Member since
    May 2009
  • From: Poland
Posted by Pawel on Friday, May 5, 2023 3:55 AM

Hello!

I like your ship a lot, looks very good to me. One thing I'm not so sure about are the belaying pins - they look overscale to me. It might also look better if you took at least some of the shine away from the brass parts - but I guess if you wait like 10 years it will take care of itself... I'm not sure but I think I read about moistening the brass parts with vinegar or something like that to corrode them slightly to make them look more realistic... don't try it on the model first, that's for sure.

I read about your problems with glue - did you try applying white glue on the planks and then using superglue/CA just in tiny spots, kinda "instead of nails"? That worked great for me on my wooden ship, CA sets much faster this way.

Good luck with your build and have a nice day

Paweł

All comments and critique welcomed. Thanks for your honest opinions!

www.vietnam.net.pl

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Thursday, May 4, 2023 9:52 PM

 

Well, it is time for another update.

 

I have added more items to the deck, then I started doing the life boats, they look to be an easy assembly, I found out very quickly how much of a pain is doing the planking on the boat, just to do the first one took me over a week. The reason being that the boat is very small but the plank has to bend in at least 2 points and there is not way to clamp them, so you have to hold the plank with you fingers until the glue sets. I followed the instructions and used crazy glue instead of wood glue to speed the construction, and it was still a pain, I got crazy glue all over my fingers in the process.

 

The attached photo shows a completed boat together with the other 3 still waiting to be plank. If I were to be a drinking man, I probably would have to get very drunk to be able to finish these boats, but, I do not drink, so I will have to suffer trough it. LOL

 

Joe

Life boats

 

fox
  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Wednesday, April 26, 2023 4:01 PM

Very nice work Joe! Toast

Stay Safe.

Jim Captain

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

  • Member since
    April 2023
Posted by Tonyfromoz on Wednesday, April 26, 2023 7:18 AM

This is looking great. Really enjoying watching the progress of the Beagle.

And your obvious skill and care.

 

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Thursday, April 20, 2023 2:05 PM

 

Well, here is another report. I have installed most of the "appliances" on the deck of the ship, there are some more to do, but, I am getting there. So far it is coming along nicely, but I have discovered that building this ship can not be rush, I have to look at the You Tube instructions 2 or 3 times and look at the printed diagrams to make sure there is not mistakes, It is very easy to make mistakes with this build because of its complexity. Well here is the photo with the latest progress made:

 

Top of deck

Joe

fox
  • Member since
    January 2007
  • From: Narvon, Pa.
Posted by fox on Sunday, April 16, 2023 2:53 PM

Looking great Joe! Yes

Stay Safe.

Jim Captain

 Main WIP: 

   On the Bench: Artesania Latina  (aka) Artists in the Latrine 1/75 Bluenose II

I keep hitting "escape", but I'm still here.

  • Member since
    July 2015
Posted by MR TOM SCHRY on Sunday, April 16, 2023 11:35 AM

Stunning work!  That deck is just outstanding.  Can't wait to see more progress.

tjs

TJS

  • Member since
    March 2020
  • From: South Florida
Posted by Having-fun on Sunday, April 16, 2023 10:49 AM

Bugatti Fan

Looking good so far.

At least it will probably be an accurate model, unlike a certain plastic Beagle that used the same manufacturer's Bounty hull.

 

 

Well, I am trying to make it as accurate as possible withing the kit and my skills ( rather limited) limitations.

 

Attached are 2 photos of the front showing the progress so far, it is a slow progress since just about all the parts has to be manufacture, but, I guess that is part of the fun of building models.

 

It looks that this model will be the most accurate I have build since I started building sailing ships.

 

enjoy.

 

Joe

 

 

side of prow

front

  • Member since
    January 2011
Posted by Bugatti Fan on Wednesday, April 12, 2023 2:57 PM

Looking good so far.

At least it will probably be an accurate model, unlike a certain plastic Beagle that used the same manufacturer's Bounty hull.

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