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  • Member since
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  • From: New mexico
Something i found funny
Posted by John3M on Friday, September 29, 2023 12:10 PM

I was looking at submarine kits on Amazon and several of the reviews for a particular submarine said, don't buy it. I'm very disappointed too many small parts had to clean the parts up don't recommend it. Kind of makes you wonder. Anyway, I'm looking for a decent submarine kit so any recommendations would be welcome

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Friday, September 29, 2023 12:49 PM

John3M

I was looking at submarine kits on Amazon and several of the reviews for a particular submarine said, don't buy it. I'm very disappointed too many small parts had to clean the parts up don't recommend it. Kind of makes you wonder. Anyway, I'm looking for a decent submarine kit so any recommendations would be welcome

 

US, German, or Rest-of-World?

Period, WWI, WWII, Post-war?

Scale: 1:72, 1:144, 1:350, 1:700, or box?

What were you cautioned against buying?  How many negative comments?  They may be valid or the commenter is a legend in his own mind.

If its the only game in town, sometimes you have to suck it up for a subject you really want.

 

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  • From: On my kitchen counter top somewhere in North Carolina.
Posted by disastermaster on Friday, September 29, 2023 1:17 PM

 There's a 1/144 scale type VIIC41 by revell in progress on "Sub assembly." It's a decent kit and with patience it can easily  be upgraded.

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Posted by John3M on Friday, September 29, 2023 4:05 PM

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John3M

I was looking at submarine kits on Amazon and several of the reviews for a particular submarine said, don't buy it. I'm very disappointed too many small parts had to clean the parts up don't recommend it. Kind of makes you wonder. Anyway, I'm looking for a decent submarine kit so any recommendations would be welcome

 

 

 

US, German, or Rest-of-World?

Period, WWI, WWII, Post-war?

Scale: 1:72, 1:144, 1:350, 1:700, or box?

What were you cautioned against buying?  How many negative comments?  They may be valid or the commenter is a legend in his own mind.

If its the only game in town, sometimes you have to suck it up for a subject you really want.

 Ww2 

Balao or Gato  

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, September 30, 2023 12:28 PM

I was writing a long response with opinions on your options.   However this site decided that it was not necessary.

Go to scalemates.com and look for 'submarine gato'

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Sunday, October 1, 2023 12:55 PM

John3M
Anyway, I'm looking for a decent submarine kit so any recommendations would be welcome

That's tricky sledding in some ways.  Submarines started with very few details at all.  Then, got rather "busier" for a bit, to then go very "featureless" in the modern era.

A WWI sub really has few details, perhaps only to one deck gun.

In WWII the need for anti-aircraft protection meant gun mounts sprouted all over the craft.  Also, additional sensors were fitted, like radar, RDF, snorkels and the like, along with the need for elevated lookouts, made the periscope shears vastly more complicated  as a general rule.

By the 50s, the need for quiet running while submerged menat streamlining all the "fiddly bits" away under cover.  This necessitated the use of fiberglass fairings over the metal forms of the conning towers, which brought us the term "sail" for those structures.

As technology marched on, the need for underwater speed, and underwater sleath necessitated removing anything like to create turbulence  or the like.  So, "features" went away.

And, thus, we can look at the kits with that in mind.  A modern nuke (even most of the super-modern diesel-electrics) are simple tubes with a fiddly bit on top, and three-to four fins at the back, and some form of propellor, often in a shorud.   So, some of the 1/700 SSNs have barely 6 parts, and the non-hull parts are teenty-tiny.  Even at 1/350 SSN & SSBN really do not have high parts counts.  The building of those is far more vested in their painting than their assembly.

In WWII boats, with all the "things" on them, 1/350 is really quite tiny for all the wanted "bits."  At 1/144, this is improved, but not really by a lot (the selection of kits is higher, though).  So, most of the "easiest to detail" kits are at 1/72, but, that's not a large number of kits--and the finished products are a bit intimidating to display.  (A 1/72 Gato-Class is more than four feet--1.3m--long when built.  Most of the DKM U-boote are right at a meter, and the IJN boats between the two.

So, as with most things in life, there are trade-offs.  Details larger than microscope size mean building modeles that eat up shelf space. 

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Sunday, October 1, 2023 3:04 PM

I did a few subs years ago.  The Dragon Ohio and Typhoon were very nice kits.  And the Dallas (Los Angeles) Vs Alpha comes with two subs!

 

Thanks,

John

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  • From: USA
Posted by keavdog on Sunday, October 1, 2023 3:33 PM

I forgot I had this one in the stash.  Comes with 3 different sails for 3 different ships.  Looks like a nice quick & easy kit

 

 

Thanks,

John

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Posted by GMorrison on Monday, October 2, 2023 3:05 PM

I built the Revell 1/144 Type 21 with interior a couple of years ago. I liked it. It had a lot of interior detail and was not hard to add detail to it.

Around that time I bought the Trumpeter Gato in the same scale, with the intention of adding an interior to it as well. Haven't started that one.

I built the 1/350 kit of Nautilus SSN 571 from Blue Ridge Models. A resin kit. I really enjoyed building it and it is a good looking boat. I don't see it on their site though.

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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