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USS Yorktown CV5
Posted by radartec65 on Friday, December 8, 2023 2:14 PM

Looking for the colors of the hanger deck,overhead and bulkheads.

From the b&w pictures I've seen it appeaes the deck has a gloss appearance.

I have both Tamiya and Model Master paints and would like to know the colors.

As I'm going to try lighting the interior,I'd like to get it right

 Thanks

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Posted by ddp59 on Friday, December 8, 2023 8:16 PM

go thru this link as that info has probably been asked & answered.

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/viewtopic.php?f=46&t=12986

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Saturday, December 9, 2023 6:59 AM

radartec65

Looking for the colors of the hanger deck,overhead and bulkheads.

From the b&w pictures I've seen it appeaes the deck has a gloss appearance. Thanks

I had the same question as I prepare Hornet CV-8. Here is a 1941 photo of CV-8; which is the same class as CV-5!      https://www.ebay.com/itm/266245871342

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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  • From: Mansfield, TX
Posted by EdGrune on Saturday, December 9, 2023 8:17 AM

Decks are Standard Navy Deck Gray #20 - the same as the interwar color.  Old ModelMaster had some, none in Tamiya.  Look at ScaleColors or Colourcoats for out of the bottle solution

Overheads and bulkheads were  white.  There are some reports that the lower 5 - 6 feet were black to hide soil & stains.   

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Posted by ddp59 on Saturday, December 9, 2023 9:30 AM

that black was around the top of the elevator wells so that the white or silver walls are not seen when the elevators are lowered.

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Posted by radartec65 on Saturday, December 9, 2023 10:37 AM

Looking at the pictures of the hanger deck, it appesrs the bulk heads are a gray compared the the white hats seen on the sailors !!

What do you think ?

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Posted by radartec65 on Saturday, December 9, 2023 10:43 AM

Also do you have the FS # for the Standard Deck Navy Gray #20 ? 

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  • From: Formerly Bryan, now Arlington, Texas
Posted by CapnMac82 on Saturday, December 9, 2023 11:43 AM

radartec65

Also do you have the FS # for the Standard Deck Navy Gray #20 ? 

In WWII The Navy Department used the Munsel Color Reference system.  Many of the USN ship colors were in the "Purple-Blue" range of that system.

The Federal Standard color system would not come about until abotu 1954, with Department of Defense adoption circa 1955, supplanting the A/N (Army-Navy) color standards left over from 1946.

There's a good, if very old, thread by EdGrune on this here:

https://cs.finescale.com/fsm/modeling_subjects/f/7/t/129857.aspx

This link suggests https://www.internetmodeler.com/2003/august/ships/color_part_1a.htm

FS37030 as equal to Deck Gray 20G, but it's also rather an old link.  So, a gain of salt will be wanted.

Many USN ships in WWII used a "slime stripe" of darck greay or near black 6-8 inches (15-18cm) up from the deck on vertical bulkheads to keepthem from discoloring dues to sawhing and the like  Accedotally, used of a brick red has been reported on USN carrier hangar decks.

Either would have also been subject to individual Captain's discretion, too--so you want refence photos to make your case.

Hangar spaces are dark by nature, even when filled with artificual light.  This can make photographs complicated to interpret, especially B&W ones developed for "full saturation" (e.g., every tone of gray from pure white to pure black in the photo).

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  • From: Chapin, South Carolina
Posted by Shipwreck on Saturday, December 9, 2023 3:55 PM

radartec65

Looking at the pictures of the hanger deck, it appesrs the bulk heads are a gray compared the the white hats seen on the sailors !!

What do you think ? 

Well, there is white and then there is white; but then, the walls probably do not get washed as often as the hats, ie. they're dirty! The basic color of my walls will be off-white turning almost grey as you get to the upper structure.

On the Bench:

Revell 1/96 USS Constitution - rigging

Revell 1/48 B-1B Lancer Prep and research

Trumpeter 1/350 USS Hornet CV-8 Prep and research

 

 

 

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Posted by GMorrison on Tuesday, December 19, 2023 2:19 PM

http://www.shipmodels.info/mws_forum/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=127

You might read through this. I have found this site to make the difference for me from a mediocre to a good model.

Tracy White suggests that the hangar deck verticals may have been silver aluminum primer.

Read away!

 

Bill

 Modeling is an excuse to buy books.

 

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