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Aircraft Carrier Deck Construction..
Posted by tlivancso on Monday, May 10, 2004 6:00 PM
Hello All,

Does anyone know where I can find sizes of the deck planking used on carriers during the 30' and 40's, specifically the U.S.S. Lexington. I am building a Boeing F4B-4 Biplane in 1/72nd scale and want to make a base depicting the carrier deck.


Cheers and Thanks
Thom

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Posted by Anonymous on Monday, May 10, 2004 7:28 PM
I think Verlinden makes a 1/72 cardboard carrier flight deck. Just Plane Stuff also makes 1/72 carrier deck, but it is more expensive, because I think it is resin.
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Posted by philp on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:39 AM
Thom,
Here is a pic I took at the Pensacola Naval Air Museum.

There are a bunch more on my site including a couple of planes on a carrier deck that is laid out in the museum. Never thought to measure the planks though.
Here is a page for the museum with contact info. I am sure someone there would be able to answer your question.
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Posted by diggeraone on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:56 AM
My suggestion would be is to take your time and use match sticks for your planking.just cut the heads off and use wood glue to joint the but ends together and sand down smooth.I think this would be your best option.Digger
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Posted by Umi_Ryuzuki on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 11:38 AM
I would suggest you check out "Midwest" products at the hobby or craft store.
Use bass wood strips, scale lumber, or pre scored sheets. Unless you prefer fiddling with matchsticks.Wink [;)]

http://www.midwestproducts.com/

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Oh yeah, a model railroad, or doll house store will sell scale siding, and scored sheets of bass wood.
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Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, May 11, 2004 5:55 PM
I don't think scored basswood would work, because the actual deck had drainage channels that would need to be replicated.
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Posted by tlivancso on Saturday, May 15, 2004 8:27 AM
Thanks to everyone for your help.

Philp: I think I'll contact the museum to see if they can give me dimensions of the decking. I have seen the web site you mentioned but did not know there was a actual deck there.

Cheers
Thom

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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 8:04 AM
Thom,
If your still looking for a display base check out www.flattopsandmore.com
As for the dimensions, the deck planking from what I've been able to dig up is 6" wide planks (More like 6x6 post because they're 6" deep also) That equates ot to .0833" wide at 1:72 scale. On the Yorktown class carriers the tie downs were spaced on 4' centers with 7 planks between tie-downs. I think the Lex. was built on the same pattern. A good walk around book should show this.
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Posted by jtilley on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 11:30 AM
The biggest challenge in reproducing a carrier deck on a large scale is the tie-down strips - the stamped-metal strips with u-shaped holes that ran athwartships every few feet, and were used to tie down the aircraft. The Verlinden resin kits represent the tie-down strips nicely; I seem to recall that at least one other aftermarket company sells something similar. The British firm White Ensign Models also sells photo-etched brass tie-down strips. On the basis of the firm's reputation I'm sure they're first-rate products. A good way to find out about the White Ensign range is via the Steel Navy website, <www.steelnavy.com>. Then click on the White Ensign Models icon. If you haven't been to that site, by the way, you're in for a treat.

Basswood is a decent material for imitation deck planking. (At all costs avoid balsa wood. Modelers have become fascinated with it over the decades, but its only real virtue, its light weight, is solely of value in flying models.) Any veteran ship modeler will tell you that maple would be even better. And the best wood of all for deck planking is holly. It's sold in the form of veneer, and isn't really very expensive - though you'd have to cut the veneer into accurate, consistent strips. If you're interested, try the website of Constantine's (formally known as Constantine's of the Bronx, but now located in Florida): <www.constantines.com>.

One other thought. Dragon makes a version of its 1/72 F4F Wildcat kit that comes with a carrier deck base. As a matter of fact I think Hasegawa sells its Brewster Buffalo in a similar package. I have no idea how those bases look, but one of those kits might turn out to be the cheapest solution to the problem.

Hope this helps. An accurate-looking carrier deck makes a nice, atmospheric base for a model.

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Posted by garys on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 1:10 PM
There was an article in a older issue of FSM about building a carrier display base. In it the author used a flat strip of basswood that was the equivalent width of all the planks between the tie down strips. For the tiedown strips he used evergreen square strips and to these he applied homemade decals of the actual tiedowns. Tom's Modelworks now makes photoetched strips so you could skip the decal step. For the most part all US wooden decks, IMO appear the same thru the Essex class, only the stains changed. FWIW borrow or buy a copy of the Steve Wiper book on Saratoga/Lexington, it's got many great pics. HTH
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Posted by Anonymous on Wednesday, June 9, 2004 2:12 PM
Thom,

Have you considered not building one but using a photo? I have one I could e-mail you if you want. Just size it and put a flat finish on it with some weathering might just do the trick. RSaddlemire@sc.rr.com

Richard
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