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    November 2005
First time builder - plese advise
Posted by Anonymous on Sunday, July 4, 2004 11:13 PM
Hi guys,

I mostly build aircraft and armor but a few weeks ago I stumbled on some pictures of the Heller HMS Victory built by people in this forum and I fell in love! I wished I could build a model as beautiful as that, so today I bit the bullet and headed to my model shop. They suggested to get started in ship building that I start with Heller's 1/75 Santa Maria. So I bought it, but now what...?

Do you guys have any good tips on where I should start or what I can do to make it a nice model? Has anyone ever built this model and what is it like?

Like I said, I don't have a clue when it comes to boats, so any tips would be greatly appreciated!

Cheers!!!
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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Monday, July 5, 2004 11:30 AM
I just did my first PE model, a Fletcher-class destroyer. That was a good model for me to start with, and figure stuff out. I saw some pics that people put up, and I also was entranced. However, I soon found that it takes practice, and while the Fletcher turned out pretty good, I learned a lot. My next one will be A LOT better. Do you have any general questions regarding PE or anything... I might be able to give you some help with my VERY limited knowledge in this area.
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    December 2003
  • From: 37deg 40.13' N 95deg 29.10'W
Posted by scottrc on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 7:38 AM
You picked a good model to start on, it has few parts, a ton of space to add extra details, plenty of detail in the hull to practice detail painting (since you model armor you should be a pro at this), and won't require a lot of rigging and will give you good practice at mounting sails. My first advice would be to go to the fabric department and pick up some good cotton coat thread in tan, brown, and black. This heavy thread is good to begin on because it is heavy and easy to work with. If you want the sails to have a canvas look to them, pick up some coat liner at the fabric department as well, about a 1/2 yard to start with. Use a fabric glue (I use Tacky Glue) and thin it with water and spread the glue on the sail, then lay the liner over the sail and let stand for 24 hrs. ( You can also add battens (these are lines that help the sail hold shape) under the cloth to add extra detail) Cut away the excess and spray paint or airbrush with fabric acrylic whatever color you want the sail. I have also hand painted the cross and other detail on my sail and they look superb. Bear in mind that the sail will be thicker than scale, but I just say that these are the "weather sails" which were thick canvas.

The fit of this kit is very good except you will have a gap where the main deck meets the wall to the foredeck. I just put in the strip of styrene here and it worked out well. The rest of the fit is great, and for a Heller, the masts and spars are very strong. You should enjoy this kit and I recommend it over the Revell Santa Maria.

Scott

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    March 2004
  • From: Spartanburg, SC
Posted by subfixer on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 12:21 PM
pssst.... hey, listen, quit now or you'll never build another tank or aircraft.
signed, a friend

I'm from the government and I'm here to help.

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    November 2005
Posted by Anonymous on Tuesday, July 6, 2004 8:57 PM
Don't listen to him & welcome to the dark side!

I'll echo Scott's coments and kudos for listening to the LHS owner and starting with something simpler. Too many people start out with the full rigged clippers and give up in frustration!

About the only thing I'll add to Scott's comments is you might want to consider modeling the ship without sails for a first effort. Sails on models is a controversial subject in and of itself (read other threads herein to see why!), and it is correct to model a ship without them.

'Bare poles' would not detract from your display, while leaving out the frustration of sailmaking and simplifying the running rigging. You can also try making a sail and see how you do, and then let that experience guide you.

Don't hesitate to come back with any other questions.
Good luck,
Bruce
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